But if spirits are all around us, with some people seeing them all the time, then you'd expect it to be easy to capture them on camera.  You'd expect people to be able to do it anywhere where people see these spirits. But it doesn't happen does it? 

OK - the use of the words 'spirits are seen all the time' doesn't necessarily mean they are seen 'all the time'. The phrase can be likened to saying (for example) 'I see my neighbour 'all the time' (meaning they see them often). Spirits generally phase in and out of vision for those who can see them on the Earth plane. They usually lower their vibration in order to appear to us.

You tried that and all it proved is how closed minded you are.  You accept this rubbish as truth, but it is plainly rubbish. 

What motive do you think I have in sharing this info with you?

You didn't hit any raw nerve Jan, you just accused me of being closed minded when it is obviously you who is closed minded.

Well that is how you are appearing to me Martin. Really closed minded.

Now, if you'd re-read the link you provided and come back with "Yes I can see that it's preposterous to propose that people who have passed over emit electro-magnetic radiation in the ultra-violet spectrum" then I would believe you to be open minded on the subject.

The UV spectrum? That is just a small part of it. What I gave you was a link to part of the EM spectrum as proposed by Arthur Findley.

You'll notice that I'm not saying that your personal experience is invalid.  Your personal experience is not called into question by the fact that electro-magnetic radiation cannot be the cause of psychic phenomena.  But you have demonstrated your closed-mindedness because you believe not only your experience to be true, but your choice of mechanism to be true when it patently is not.

Spirits can and do affect EM radiation Martin. Paranormal investigators will use EMF meters in their investigations Also there is EVP phenomenon

So, no raw nerves from me, just a solid argument based on good science.  No wild claims that psychic phenomena cannot be true, but a solid assertion that is as unlikely as a teapot orbiting between Mars and Jupiter.

If you believe it to be unlikely but you are not prepared to look further then you have just hit a brick wall which you have built for yourself. A true skeptic would want to investigate further - given the accounts, info and experiences that are out there.

have[/b] seen of it and the damage it does to people;

I asked you previously if you could elaborate more on this 'damage to people' thing that you have mentioned before in similar topics. I do not consider myself to be 'damaged' or any of my spiritualist friends to be 'damaged' - so I am curious as to what you mean Andy. The last time I asked you - I don't think you gave me an answer.

when I couple that experience with what I believe Christians are taught about it in the Bible, I regard it as not so much something that is out of my comfort zone, but something to be actively avoided.

Do you mean what is said in Leviticus or Deuteronomy? (like the other stuff in those books - the weird laws, contradictions and cruelty etc).

The bible is full of Spirit communication -  where does Jesus teach that we should not have anything to do with our loved ones who have crossed over into Spirit? - again we have done this before - I don't remember there being an answer on this last time, so has there been a development since?