Message #1780

[Jan]

You're entitled to your opinion Jan.  Personally I don't believe that anyone can see 'those who have crossed over', I know you believe this, and that's fine - I doubt that many people are harmed by such a belief.

I 'believe' it for a number of reasons Martin (one reason being that I have 'seen' along with hubby 'seeing' at the same time) - its not just 'blind faith' - not when a person has had personal proof. Also with regard to anyone who hasn't seen - well just because you can't see something, it doesn't mean that it isn't there or it doesn't exist.  If you want to learn more about what I have been going on about - then do some research and visit a Spiritualist Church (if you look on the internet you will probably find one near to where you live). That is how I learn't about it - and I am still learning

Well there was a time when both you and I didn't exist - before we were born.  Why should it not be just like that after we die? 

Just because we weren't living on Earth for a time before our birth, does not mean that we did not exist Martin.

If you want the real sciency bit, then there doesn't seem to be any good reason to propose that we should carry on after the energy that caused our brains to operate has dispersed. 

Well the real sciencey bit is that energy cannot be created or destroyed Martin - it is the first law of thermodynamics. Look it up if you don't believe me. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only converted from one form to another

There are different types of energy Martin. The physical electro chemical energy in human brains is just one type of energy.

How do you remember things when the structures that held those memories have been destroyed?
Think about alzheimers, or dementure, it is the brain that holds memories, tells us who we are and who we know.  Destroy that part of the brain that holds the memory of someone and the memory is gone.

Remember before (in previous discussions on this subject) I mentioned about the brain being a type of 'interface' for the mind & soul/spirit? The  physical interface part can be destroyed or damaged, but that does not mean that memory cannot be held elsewhere 

lets do a bit of time traveling back to Faithspace  December 2009 - before this version of Faithspace was created - but we all still existed (lol) and our thoughts still recorded - in another place.

My view on this is that the brain is an 'interface computer' for this world and its experiences - but the brain isn't 'us'.

Quotes from The Silver Birch Book of Questions and Answers

Q - What is spirit?

A - SPIRIT is perfect in its origin, spirit possess intrinsically the creative forces of all life. Spirit is not subject to age, infirmity,wastage or to any of the defects that affect the physical body. The line of spirit evolution is from immaturity to maturity. Part of its evolution is accomplished through a physical body, which it has created for that purpose. Spirit is dominant, spirit is the king, spirit is the ruler. But here comes the paradox. There is an interaction between spirit, mind and body, and the body restricts the activity of the spirit on earth because the spirit can express itself on earth only through the body at its disposal.