What Jan believes has not turned her into a homophobe, or someone who thinks that God would be justified in consigning people to eternal torture.  Nor is she someone who tries to justify the oppressive treatment of women found in the Old Testament - all of which I have seen you do.  I have every respect for the loving person that Jan is, and very little for what your religion has turned you into.

Try not to be so harsh on Andy - that doesn't get us anywhere - and Andy isn't a bad person (as you are not a bad person either Martin). Trying to make sense of the Bible can be no easy task - not when there are mistakes in translation and contradictions in there (as well as the accepted abuse of other people)

The thing Christians need to ask themselves is what is negative in giving proof of an afterlife and information from that afterlife, when Christians believe in an afterlife too? Spiritualism (and Christian Spiritualism of course) goes that step further in giving this proof. I don't think there is any other group (apart from paranormal investigators or survivalists) or religion that does this is there? Just knowing more about this can make a great difference to how we live our lives here and now. This life is important but there is more to our existence than this life. If you don't believe me - well that is your choice. I did try to show you ...