Message #1846

[Jan]

If I'm really honest I'd guess that you seek to justify your beliefs... to yourself.

And where would the logic be in that - given what I have already told you about me already receiving proof (many many times over)?

No - the reason is not for me Martin! It is because when some people cross over, they are lost. They cannot understand what has happened and they don't believe that they are 'dead'. They will try to communicate with those 'living' and wonder why they cannot do so. It would not occur to them that they died physically and are now in Spirit - because their minds are not capable of processing that information (closed minded) or they are in denial and frightened.

They will know that a fundamental change has taken place - and they will experience consciousness. But they refuse to accept they are physically dead. They stubbornly keep on believing that perhaps their mind has gone a little strange - but they keep on DENYING they are dead in the afterlife dimension and they will be confused. Their vibrations of the etheric body will attract others of their level of vibrations - and if they die with lower vibrations - they could experience some kind of horrible existence for thousands of years as we measure time on earth.

from here

Would anyone who is aware there is an afterlife want that as above to happen to anyone else if they knew they could do something to help prevent it? Obviously with some people who have 'made up their minds' there is more chance of 'a teapot orbiting Jupiter' (a favorite quote on the atheist sites that) but while there is still a chance, I will take it in the hope of helping.

Also just to add - we all have lost love ones through physical death. Knowing that our loved ones are still alive and well in Spirit - having that proof/evidence does help to make a great difference. It helps to give some comfort - even though we still miss the physical presence of the loved one.

...In which he postulates that those who see phenomena that others do not see are doing so because they have the ability to see frequencies just outside the normal human spectrum.  You don't even read the articles you post to support your position.

I think you have misunderstood this part a wee bit Martin. Just outside of normal human spectrum or vision can still be within the EM energy field. The diagram link I gave you  shows this.


The vibrations of the etheric world, I am told by my informants there, commence just above those of the physical world. We have confirmation of this through the knowledge obtained from psychic photography and clairvoyance, and from the fact that etheric beings, called ghosts, have been seen from time to time through the ages. Thus their lowest vibrations must be just about touching our normal physical range of sight.

Dr Jan W. Vandersande Ph.D. is a scientist and has a technical background that has nothing to do with spiritual matters - the link below gives more info on the evidence he collected.

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