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Re: 2012 lent blog
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« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2012, 15:00:30 »
a day start:...  an attempt to get what turns out to be a churchgoer to park more tidily.....  the distant strains of singing and a glimpse of..  if churchgoer does not come to church then church goes to the churchgoer ... the whole church everyone in fact the whole congregation like one giant woodlouse moves in synchrony it is quite a sight! but they don't actually stop and talk,,, they just well waft past... self conscious meddley.........  then it's my turn going to church that is i feel oddly early... and start off with giving GOD the choice actually seems i am going the right way then... a choice of busstops... ok go this one this way... and there sitting on a wall i find a 'young man' in a suit just sitting there in the beautiful sun looking uncomfortable... he is staring into space ... i ask him if he is ok ... actually he looks a bit forelorn like he is waiting for somebody who perhpas they are not coming like he has just had a row and is sitting outside looking shame faced and hurting.... he says he is not ok so i join him on the wall of apparent sighs saying i am a christian.... so is he ... he is on his way to palm sunday church and can't quite make it he lists a number of serious ailments... i offer to pray ... i: Hosanna Blessed is He Who Walks in the Lord... says i ;Hosanna in Excelsis says he...   i pray conscious i have neither asked him his name or offered mine nor asked if i can put my hand on him so i just pray out loud...   and after a bit he suddenly rises up tall and i offer to walk with him to his church but he wants to return home and commune with his medical facilities... we part GOD BLESS! and i feel a little moved it has to be said... at the bus stop i see someone from my church setting forth and walk with them!...

at church i am asked ... where are the: ......''s   last week they were late,,, i had given them to mog.... turns out that mog had delivered them late not cos he was late but cos he forgot them and dilligently went home to fetch them arriving them there.. late..... this time having rerun last weeks events with him ... i decide to give them to him again .. saves a late night walk to somebody else's ..... i feel fully confident that this is the right thing to do... and what happens this morning ? no ''s and no mog! i am there being quizzed with alacrity i am embarrassed cos well it should be my responsibility!we phone him... no reply! i wander outside and ... he is just arriving talking to another late-comer... is that the time?... ermmm i had felt GOD wanted to take that burden off and then...

 church was lovely the rearranged layout seems to be a regular feature again and the little me sized space remains a me sized space that i can stretch out in... Ministry was good... i got prayed for and had some Clarity from GOD... gave out some WORDS... and ambled into town towards the railway station


i am about to escape to my first excursion out of town to a far away church this year... and themes have been resounding an anthem of sorts... one of the many speakers that are visiting from near and far churches everywhere ....   last time i heard them there was a weird thing with a blackbird song ....    and recently this Glory board has come up again! it's like GOD illuminates the song beyond the sound of birdsong... like that worship thing that glorious freedom to sing your heart out!  ... now last year i did not quite.. well GOD Gave me a WORD it was one of those exciting ones that the church cannot own for itself and wrap you up in knowjhow knots but while some of the talk i loved!!! some of it left me running for the hills... you know...: that man made fibre mixing it with wools that sort of thing... but the tremendous volley of blackbird song all wrapped up in the 'angelic' glow of the Holy Spirit amplifying and trumpeting in amazing declaration of LOVE for ALL HUMANKIND that i remember and it has appeared once again just as we were wondering if we were going out to do street stuff... something that the culture this speaker is bathed in comes from ... as soon as i heard that it was a sign... especially as the where of that hearing was not a place that that was heard!... so i'm feeling pretty excited now just writing about it...

but i must add a small incident of note earlier today... it has NEVER happened to me before... i go through the fire escape for a fag as usual (though we didn't always use the/that door in days gone by) and as i come back to go in... the door is shut .. and there is nobody about... in fact there is absolutely nobody anywhere in sight... i try to manually catch the door to pull it open .. zilch! i end up doing a bit of clambering a stairwell //// doors all locked there is a court yard with some doors none of which are open.... in the end i discover a sign stating fire exit and am thankfully able to exit ... shutting the door behind me....  thnakfully i have keys on me ... but for some moments it is possible that i may be stranded there perhaps till tomorrow with some fags and a bible ! keeping various bird life preoccupied.... i have been preaching the Gospel to rather a lot of animals of late! including a fox who seemingly came back stood still seemingly wanting more! it's very touchjoing

I love Jesus and Jesus LOVES YOU!!! more anon!

GOD BLESS!

PEACE AND LOVE,
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Re: 2012 lent blog
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2012, 15:06:07 »
man!!  i am standing respectfully outside the church building staring at some signs showing fire ... and my lighter refuses to light... i try everything ,,,  then i shout man! and it springs to life!  i laugh loojking back at the fire image and realising GOD is in the mix...   the worldliness of man the god of man lights my lighter fuel and lights my cigarette the same fire that Jesus ... the Fire of Jesus is the FIRE OF LOVE...

earlier i had stood in one of those queues irritated by the length of time everybody seemed to be taking for what surely was 'get and go' questions... me i get to the counter and myself find to be in an unexpectedly long debate about route....   my destination intrigues the counter assistant... who asks if am i going for _? "no" i say surprised thinking why wouldn't i?... and feel prompted to add .. "i am going to a church"  i name it cos i like the name... then go on about FIRE and LOVE of GOD and counter assistant says to my utter amazement that we could do with some of that round here... he sounds glum... and me i feel suddenly burdened with responsibility..  'all that i have i give to you in the Name of Jesus !' i surprise myself with that boldness but it  just falls out of my mouth... and off i go to sort out the next phase of the journey...

on the way i encounter my carefully crafted space suddenly invaded by a whole destiny of women seemingly related to one another ... one of them mentions a hospital stay pending... i remove my sunglasses and eventually get the bible out... i'd love to speak but falter... praying and turning to Jesus is the least i can do...

/// next phase of transport i have a lengthy stay in 'my' carefully selected seat ... as in spontaneous decision making:  ah i'll sit here!... next to a woman who is periodically coughing and you can smell that pungent unwellness sort of cold/flu thing... my animal instinct wants me to move but me i sit put and pray.... and pray .... and pray....  and pray aggain! ... i am silently reminiscing a journey that i made months ago ... one of those lengthy bus replacement rides where you really are tired and all you want is to be home and: oh this is a good place to sit! ...and it is next to somebody who it turns out has some digestive problem and keeps burping some pretty parky smells... and me i sit still... well there are all too few options... of where else to sit... and i pray..... and pray... and pray....   i go through an enormous number of prayers for that person and others round until eventually i hit on one i would never have thought of in the first place and it all stops!  the parky burping that is.....   and hey there we are home!.. perfect timing and plan....  and so here i am again? i pray for everything i can think of again....  and there appears to have been no more coughing for a bit..indeed i look and see person next to me fast asleep! 

,this narcoleptic effect has been an exciting and interesting phenomenon, particularly of medium distance public transport travelling ... i pray for whatever comes to mind to pray about ...and people fall asleep around me... and not necessarily the ones that i am directly praying for or about!... there's an atmosphere of peace, and me i am wide awake trying to get someplace with this praying milarkey .....

at the church.... i am really not getting on with the worship at all even though by rights i should be! i just am sick to death even at this level of Charisma of Christ....  of talking about GOD when we should be talking to GOD ... the church is way too overflowing to be comfortable i am later than i hoped i would be even though the entire journey was pretty smooth... but i find that i am actually experiencing some of GOD in all this... at one point i get a word from GOD? for someone.... for the very first time  i decide to be the honourable visitor and try and get mediation ie find 1) is person from church? 2) find person who is on Ministry team 3) take it from there.... this is taking all too long so i write the WORD on some paper i am scrawling away when suddnely the pen i use has run out of ink....whwhw! i shake it rub it  try to scribble... no absolutely zilch i do something that i have done previously in these circumstances and that is to carry on writing that way you retain the imprint... though i am staring at the prospect rather gloomily and sceptically ..... i carry on writing when suddenly the pen springs back into action on a word ... i laugh cos there is something prophetic about this moment ... you heard the word then you did and even though your efforts seemed to be a bit invisible and fruitless you heard the word and carried on .... and suddenly the message is finished and can fill in the rest!,,, i am quite excited about this...  GOD is full of all sorts of tricks this evening.....   and i miss the spoken talk cos i went out for a fag and found some Ministry going on on my return that i could not keep away from and chatted to somebody with the person being Ministered to!.....   then impartation they are doing a Fire tunnel! but what about? i had afterall completely missed the entire talk and had no idea what the impartation was supposed to be focused on....   

it's a long journey from the first time i did fire tunnel and elected to walk through with my hand raised Heavenward and i got a picture of Jesus looking thoroughly miserable and i asked why that was and the reply was because of the way that i was treated!.... and i had been deeply moved on another occasion by one person speaking in tongues and like chasing people away from me and like everyone kind of stopped and stood back....

on this occasion i wasn't sure what to do... but certainly something flew off .... and out of the tunnel i found myself propped up against a stack of chairs held there unable to move... i was dwelling on something one of the visitors had said in Ministry ... it was something i had noticed and had hardly dared to think ..... well i was being told something.....    i was pretty thirsty it seems from thinking about it... how much to soak in how much to take in .....i had much to ask from GOD to continue the questions i had of GOD i was actually in this space entertaining to ask... and i was kindov getting some answers,,,,,,i had already had some pretty profound experience of being in this place...... a charismtic environmnet used to being charismatic used to stuff like manifestations of the Holy Spirit and being a growing church...   one of the things i was carrying yesterday was i have a deadline i have to meet and me i am well not quite making it to well anywhere and GOD had answered my question earlier and i was continuing that journey! a bit of me had wanted to have more of a conversation and be prayed for and somehow it didn't quite happen.... 

the collection was for the guests and i had on the previous evening asked GOD about it realising that i had been a bit well i had done some radical obedience stuff like emptied my pockets (not a huge amount but meaning there was well nothing left for the home ride)... well GOD did something generous and interesting ....   GOD gave me a number and showed it's numerical distribution in hard currency ... i put my hand in my pocket and took out what was that value... but suddenly remembered the exact distribution and had to start all over again and recoujnt... i felt a glow of achievement with that.. pondering well what was the difference and thinking well actually.. aha!

on the way back home  i find i am sharing the journey with somebody else from the church service who GOD had got me to stand behind in the queue... it was ridiculous... one person came and called that those who were travelling far should come and push to the front... is that me? oh yes that is me... i could not seem to move anywhere! and then i pushed before a whole 2 people explaining my case and then a group of folks pushed before me .... and now i am sitting in the same compartment as the person who in the fire tunnel queue eventually was immediately in front of me... and in case GOD wanted things to be terribly clear GOD gets me to collide with them.... at the church.... they are totally engrossed in the two centimetres or so before their eyes sitting parallel to me ... me i am thinking oh ... nobody engages here that's the standard i guess.... a moment or so later we are both in the same walkway alone... i venture forth 'have you just come from...' i am likewise recognised and we start to chat...   GOD being GOD we have some similar frustrations with church life and the thirst and desire to grow we chat for ages ...  at some point i come out as gay that causes a deep anxiety ... but by the end of this part it's hugs all round!

the final phase of journey... GOD is deep in this now.... i really can't find a seat to sit... seems though GOD wants... so i sit there... and pray for a bit... somebody gets off liberating two seats i rush eagerly forward!.... and am now listening to a heart rendering conversation referencing somebody with a serious condition ...  somebody sits next to me as i am about to pray.... i pray.. they are completely affected in their spirit!.... the people behind and next to me leave .... i am sitting alone again  thinking about 'i want to be taught by GOD' i get out the Bible ... and am kindov faffing about.. then notice there's a case open at my feet... the person in front of me is..... asleep... but their travelling companions rescue the offending object i point out the risks... they are grateful i return to the Bible and quite sudenly i find myself reading .....   i am manifesting in the Holy Spirit and quite noisily.... by the time we get from A to B several are asleep ... and me i am wowed by GOD!

ok thou shalts .... in the Amplified version it's written like this : 'You shall etcetc the Lord Thy GOD.... etc" i am reading Mark 12 and Matthew 22 and Deuteronomy and even chase up exodus .... i love this ... what-? this is a command? then what is a command in GOD's Hands ? it is the prophetic WORD the thing that will happen cos GOD says IT WILL.....   signing the fortunes of what will happen cos GOD IS GOD AND GOD IS LOVE!!!

and later Ezekiel (after some priming from various places in the psalms lamentations and .... i am reading Ezekiel from the begining and i can hardly stop reading for a few chapters... and GOD is speaking i am asking and the Holy Spirit is pouring forth and i am manifesting noisily!  AMAZING GRACE!

GOD BLESS!

Peace and Love,
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Re: 2012 lent blog
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2012, 19:55:06 »
GOD has been up to some stuff of late.. and i am feeling a bit well a bit!... : i was in a space a while back and was thinking hey i like this space...  and well seems like me and my nonchristian pals are invited to use it... like quite suddenly out of nowhere! like GOD is smiling i am truely amazed for what i was pondering to GOD is how we is invited to use it.. i told no-one!

oh i must tell you about the whale this happened yesterday... i was walking along and could see a stretch of water and it was like there was.... well it was like there was a whale there... it made me think though cos i was pondering along with trying to learn something by rote which i am fully crap with and i am not sure what this image and sight was about... i am non the wiser but there was i walking on the land and there in the water was a whale a special fish like as in Jonah.. earlier i had been singing there is a boat man...

and earlier i had just gone in and found i had forgotten to take out the rubbish.. now usually this means ok try to remember to take this out later? .. but i had an immediate impulse to take it out then and there... outside i spotted somebody i had not seen for a while and apparently they had just moved in as a neighbour.. they had a dramatic time a long time ago and i recall being there feeling helpless along with their church leader as to how best to pray... me i was an occasional visitor caught up in a moment of a terrible time for someone .... and since then had hardly seen or spoken to them... they are completely amazed at my talking about christian things charismatic .. it feels so GOD-incidental and they describe feeling some tingling as i am speaking that comes back when i describe the weirdness of me deliberately doing my rubbish at that moment!....

in the afternoon i have a helpful conversation about my worldly concerns.... oh how it would be wonderful to have this sorted.. this whole complete trust with GOD at the helm... would i be doin this....  and later have a moving time at a prayer group.... just the 4 of us doing worship and prayers... and actually trusting my collegiate to ask for prayer for a whole lot of stuff i tell them a bit about stuff and i feel kind of listened to... everyone has different worries areas that we feel out of control with and areas of GOD's LOVE... you shall love the Lord thy GOD... cos GOD says so and it's really exciting what GOD wants to do to make that possible achievable ....that happen for real like you don't have to do anything at all about it... i mean love means love.... yes there may be things people say about how that should feel if you lojve buyt GOD just knows that you will love GOD

and you will achieve whatever GOD says you will!

GOD BLESS!

Peace and Love,




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Re: 2012 lent blog
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2012, 19:07:02 »
uncertainty invites expansion and development .. certainty invites standstill....  i like the tension of Jesus 'follow me' and the 'you can't go where i am going'... how confusing is that? well not at all the question posed by the human is in one place and the invitation from Jesus is completely coming from a different place altogether.... and earthly thoughts  is earthly thoughts and understanding Heaven is Heaven above worldly understandings.... parochiality is parochiality Heaven is unlimited potential of the unknown and thankfully not stoppable by our ... parochiality?

ok here's one i made earlier i liked it so here it is... what a cheat!... has anything actually happened since this morning or thoughts or anything that's why i came in isn't it?  fleetingly met mog... and am reminded that i am bunking an invite to a seder event... even though i was so invited i got phoned up to make sure whether i was coming cos well it's lamb and so i would need vegetarian option... can't i just bring a quorn sausage or something apparently not it affects entire prep.... well i have been thinking about this... seder is a great idea but hardly authentic i mean it's not really well like something we grew up with ...??? at first i thought hey you know if it were like being invited onto someone's turf for this that would be an honour and truely cool.... and then well ,,,confronted with everyone chomping on lamb -suddenly felt queasy.... and confronted with not knowing about whether i came or not creating a problem all lam eaters welcome at the 11th hour but this nauighty veggie sort of ... had to book in advance.... how brat like can a brat be i ask you?... what a lot of apologetics for.... to get to .... well.... yesterday i tried to go to a group that turned out not to be on and was confronted with a young person who Bless them! did their best to answer my questions ... i came away with the notion that it was on tonite instead and well that sorted that out? via two adult communciations to check stuff out.... the joys of not having a mobile phone in an era where it is the christian's essential accessory... carry a bible optional ... but lose your mobile phone and!!!!

but the odd thing was that though i ended up standing in the cold and the dark for an inordinate amount of time yesterday ... and yet it i felt it was all GOD planned!

it is true that if i had a mobile phone all this would be straight forward! or would it?


how weird thought i had done one of these earlier!...

what really excited me though was later that evening i got to pray for a non christian friend!!!! am completely overexcited about that cos i just asked they completely surprise me by declaring my GREAT FAITH !! it's like the Holy Spirit was everywhere! and it was so easy after that.. to do... how GOD IS THAT!!!!

GOD BLESS!

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« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2012, 18:55:48 »
have escaped... a feel of phew... leaving the religious folks watching a video...  a visitor has brought a dog.... visitor says eat the christians the dog is completely dopy uninterested in important person in the church... visitor says there you're not an authentic christian....   to ipc ... a little later i have a question to ask ipc... the dog starts barking at me... i grin and say there i am recognisable as a christian.... dog doesn't appear to stop ... apparently it's the hat i'm wearing i take it off dog stops barking make friends with dog....  i was listening to the video from the next room and just completely not feeling inspired to join the pair ... it's been a day of churchmen somehow and it raises my hackles i just do not recognise stuff....as Jesus.... someobody phones someone else and the call is going on for some time i pray and say 'Jesus sends His Love' to say to person on the other end.... person at my end thinks this is really quaint and passes it on in what feels like a bizarre fashion....   this is my church on a day to day and the good days are marvellous and the exception... i sigh i said at the head of this i escaped.... well the video they were watching was the life and death of Lonnie frisbee an odd choice perhaps.... ipc is kind of proud of the fact that ipc wants everyone to see this.... well i have seen it and reminisce the times gone by when i did see it was inspired by the charisma of the Spirit it's the opening chapters of John Wimber and tour de force that has been the Vineyard movement of churches that also had a part in the Toronto Airport churches no doubt others oh fed into Bethel Redding California..... so a pretty interesting legacy... but i was thoroughly unimpressed with the carry on of the folks in the movie and extremely disappointed with the half finished analysis and really underwjhelmed with what the goodly right wing christian tendency folks i watched it with the first time were actually watching....

 ipc is a big fan of all 3 church movements and therefore prides self on the hip desire to be less stuffy ... really i think ipc would love to be american and probs that would do nice enough.... image is not my number one priority by any means.....  but ipc at times struggles but really is upheld by his church intellectual interests is a right wing evangelical in truth and sadly in spirit also and biazrely not in heart.....   but Paul said about the renewal of the mind as a thought process to ultimately trump Jesus and GOD softening hearts and all that ,,,,,,and so i have absolutely no desire to sit and watch the life and death of Lonnie frisbee to listen to him ranting rubbish about how hip he is .... ipc is pretty odd though for ipc has a soft heart... unfortunately soft hearted and head started don't really mix ... i drew a comparison in one of my lost posts with someobdy else i know both with a passion to teach their fields... sadly i see ipc as GOD Loved but man spoiled and ipc's own self image does not quite help....  like what is ipc prepared actually to do to... other than teacjh ....ipc rests on ipc's laurels rests on the people who have inspired ipc and talks about them and talks about GOD.... listening to about GOD is what seems to be tolerably enough for most of the congregation and ipc is offended that i don't want to listen to those talks full of the spirit of man and manipulations as well as Holy Spirit Inspired words... it's not for me.... GOD has already showed me that GOD doesn't need me to sit and listen to actaully teach me ... i don't like being talked down to and really if someone cannot actually show evidence of transformation from the good bits spoken to a crowd towards in their real lives which bit should one avoid? the church or the real life version... the comparison with the non christian is interesting... the non christian is prone to waffle on on the drone of their own voice .... lovely person... the non christian i find somehow much more inclusive and much more interested in the development of all the folks they are charged with theri growth and development... there is no comparison.... that church stifles while the churchmen's big helpless ego gets in the way hence the church carries on regardless while churchmen stifle and grovel and do the ... in some ways it's a shame these men's roles are not reversed... i could see unlimited growth potential with the non christian busy as GOD Warrior... while too many blinkers are about as far as the ipc is concerned..... i walked out of the atmosphere of spite and homosexuality... in other words the 'spirit' of homosexuality was one of spite is one that is made up nurtured and manufactured within the hate proposals of certain enclaves of teahcing and er normative role playing withing the church.. it's a human manufactured scheme.... let's be clear here we are not talking actual sexuality or actual same sex attraction we are talking the anals of spite of a picture bound ... we are not talking about GOD's Love or the Day of Favour of the Lord we are talking the spite and misapprehension and misconception that is misconstrued within a ridiculous paradigm of so called biblical living that creates completely ridiculous expectations and demands on the human that GOD does not want for them... it is only when i have left the room that i am aware of the invective vindictiveness.... i leave not because i am a bad person demons fleeing but in that moment i have things to do... that all week there has been an atmosphere of spite and struggling .....  as soon as i am out i am able to breathe freely i say to Jesus thatkyou Jesus out loud ...  the film of Lonnie Frisbee is incomplete.... i really cannot imagine how a christian viewing it can come out the otherside without challenging their belief systems to it's natural conclusion ie GOD's nature rules... but my experience of the christians is that they can... and  so unless Jesus thinks differently i will give that one a miss!.......   a bit of me wants to cheerfully leave them to tjheir own devices ...... they can watch together on their own.... have their innane half hearted conversations never getting to GOD's truth because they are comfortable in theri own statusquo belief Lord... and yet they are not....  the film about Lonnie Frisbee enables some deep questions to be met.... fairly recently i met somebody who had actually been in the right place in the right time and had met lonnie frisbee... i asked aobut him and found there were one or two details that were not apparent from the actual story told... which to me personally mattered to the narrative.... and that is before one actually can ask questions about what happened to LF what did not happen and does it matter?...i am told that  John Wimber pencils him out of the narrative of the history of the vineyard movement for example... but i found him on a history of pentecostal healing ministries set out on a chart by some american...  so why controversy? afterall Paul Caine seems to have managed to have homosexual scandal after homosexual scandal and survive physically.... and many more have had an array of physical scandals with women and survived like Martin Luther King for example... so why this odd thing about purity amongst the evangelicals to me getting married or being romantically involved already closes the door on stuff usually i mean how can one authentically stand there and say Jesus is number 1 for me and then say wife is ok too.... what really is the point of getting married if it's not for love? expedience?..... purity amongst evangelicals really is quite a lie most of the time there are some ugly sexual tendencies LIKE  the way women are actually viewed


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« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2012, 21:43:11 »
well the american male church choir aside... i go back and watch the video....  there's loads i don't remember.... i find it well... challenging cos ....well there's a lot of time since then .... and i can relate to much of Lonnie's bitterness... and the frustration of some of the speakers at the treatment of homosexuals in church like the special treatment that homosexuals experience compared to everyone else... everything Lonnie has been through i have too... ostracisation.... curtailing of Ministry...people giving particular attention if i am talking to a young woman under 50 or kids (neither of which i have sought out! on the contrary GOD has got them to speak to me ...)  LF is bitter too about the lack of vision and insight of those leading church at what the person the human being is carrying...  so the church is hardly representing Jesus...  surely if the people themselves who stake the claims to do the cjhurch bizz ain't functioning on Jesus level surely!....  one contributor to the film asks along the lines of where is one supposed to find salvation as a gay...? in Heaven i cry out.... adding come Lord bring Heaven to earth...

afterwards we are supposed to have discussion and questions i make a comment about only attending to GOD somebody disagrees... says we are only human and that is the point ... i walk out saying i've gottago... the person objects to this saying they are talking .....me i am not sure where it is i have to go to and look at the clock for answers..... and stumble out....   i feel very at odds with the church...... and feel we have been there before... suddenly there is no irony that most of my Spiritual Growth has been outside of my actual fellowship community as well as... i wonder again whether i shoudl even have gone to church in the first place converted as i was outside of the church... the thing that is bothering me is that... look the church it's foibles and farfetched short-comings is one thing the other thing is ... what about this thing Lord... it's like we have come full circle who and how do i need to go from here it's point to the truth that is Jesus!

an excursion to a church a while ago was extremely interesting ..... not only was i there looking forward to being there.... i was there when most of the church was not! certainly there were some familiar faces but what about the others?  away on Mission.... the speaker made two memorable statements one.... that their entire Ministry whatever they had undertaken their mission was to equip their charges to be better than them.... oh how increasing of the Holy Spirit was that.... and additionally they believed in doing the dirty work of serving themselves not doing the typical fashion of we are far too important... it was the first and only time i have heard somebody speak this way ... i say this conscious of there are many speakers who themselves help out in set up and etc..... the second point they made was about the ... at first i thought i know thinking feeling thoroughly iritated you know that bit Paul much over quoted about the renewing of your mind.... well listen i have no idea what Paul meant i kindov know what chruch folks mean ie to think more like the church folks and all that biblical tying up in knots they sees to do in the OT and times of Jesus in the religious places.... but i like to think that in defense of Paul on that occasion... hey never mind Paul what occured to me: .... the renewing of the mind in Christ.... Christ is the Annointing.... therefore it is the direct connection of GOD like... well it reminds me of Luke 4 Isaiah61 v1 and half of v2 the Kingdom of GOD is nigh the Day of the Favour of the Lord.....  somehow that is very agreeable.....   and even if all we can do is sit with words in the mouth to do .......   surely!!!!  GOD ?

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Re: 2012 lent blog
« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2012, 21:33:27 »
....well everyday i've had somebody new to pray hands on for ..... late thursday night am thinking haven't done one today... and then ... must go to the shop i have a feeling... and there i am in the shop praying for somebody in a cast... i look at them and ask how does that feel... i pray again and they say that;s amazing! they are an unchurched believer who i have spoken to about my faith ... they are telling me there and then they can do something that they could not do previously i am humbled .... the following day i find an opportunity to catch up ... since my shopping actually turns out to be something i really need but do not actually utilise i smile to myself .... but i hear that the shooting pains that they had not previously mention in those terms have gone and i pray some more they think i have been deliberately put by GOD in their midst me i think they have been in my midst...  i repray for somebody else who i prayed for noticing improvement but having a bad day.... and find myself tongue tied to offer prayer to one or two folks in casts that i am surrounded by... oh how i love this!

yesterday was GOOD FRIDAY GOD woke me in time to go to church and somehow i was well dragging my feet but still made it in but missed the religious bit .... well is that fair? the guided walk... stations of the cross with meditation.... (i later dive into a catholic church and find all their statues are covered it's really weird that//// except there is a tiny crucifix uncovered and it is radiating the JHoly Spirit well me i sit down and notice the stations of the cross adorning the walls wow perfect! i have to find the begining and then me and one other woman get ejected by the priest sigh!.....) i really enjoy some   and finally get to break bread and drink wine all on my own.... cos well i have ceased to like to be served it's Jesus i want to do communion with!  -it seems loads of churches are going theri own way on the bread and wine thing.... i cannot stand the bread dipped in wine thing or any variant of where the body is broken signalling Jesus earthly life and the blood poured the life blood of Heaven to earth... and have even during the year had such a strop at one church that i got a telling off well they did ask me if i enjoyed the service... well i liked the worship ...and started well had lots to say about  ... me i could not believe that a sacramentally based chjrch opts for bread dipped in wine or juice... what is one communing with when Jesus says do this as oft as ye remember and yet the good folks of the precinct get their bibles out and quote Paul....  why can't we do it with Jesus? it may come as no surprise that it is some time since i was ever asked to preside over the table.. at my church and actually it was all of once and only once and it was on GOOD FRIDAY onceuponatime a while ago..- i arrive as Ministry is in progress but linger outside inwardly groaning as i hear an important church person say 'i said that' i was thinking ok but what about Jesus? ,,,, Ministry time though  is marvellous and i ask some folk about praying cos i have an evening appointment that i later muse about the name of the ancient english king ethel the unready ?... er can't quite recall his name but think i am full of excuses always determinedly underprepared! always faffing and always well i feel falling short but it is humbling to be unready and receive folks encouragement! i have had 3 days to prepare for this appointment which is a very little time given how crap i am at learning and given that there is no window of opportunity for rehearsal!  i discover i am not alone though......   which leaves me concerned about the others //// i have prepared something for non-christian environment ... and want to claim my faith so my bit of activity is a mix of something very familiar which is kindov relavant suggested by one of the others on my questioning theri substantial knowledge well i thought they would come up with something a bit more obvious but there is something of complete inspiration at their brainwave!!!!  ok....  well i am familiar if not internalised and i have an idea to include something that is less well known of defo christian origins but fits it seems on more levels than one and requires some serious learning!... me i want a particular take but seem to struggle to explain and in the end well...... GOD like has a plan that is a little peculiar but i go with it into yet more uncharted territory .... it's not what i would have done but in the moment that's what i did...  and maybe under the circumstances GOD got it right afterall!

later have evangelical opportunity.... Bless that person trying to make conversation with me ... asking me about plans for Easter and me saying that er well er em am er feeling pretty irreligious as it happens... i get asked if i had a church what would it be like///// well i reply that it is a dilemma whether church as we know it is what following Christ really is about.... though of course these sorts of matters are up to GOD and it would be GOD that sorts out these matters or any matters in er 'my church' i feel it's a really interesting church and remembering something they said about a time of association with church they say that at that church ....  the good folks of the evangelical church did an awful lot of talkign and apparently not a lot of doing.... that does sound familiar ... i like the community engaged with helping people in need church that person would like to see... they have a very sad tale to tell of the abuse of them by a church person... i use the word abuse for what other word can describe the nasty spiteful mallevoulousness of spreading rumours of lies about that person.... their crime /// not being liked by that person who objected to theri association with somebody in the church ie the evangelical link person hey ho! not a good advert for church methinks  person agrees....


....   very little today is well pretty well amazing... do street stuff .... i confess i was not entirely pleased that mog was gonna come to .... but for completely irrational reasons.... somehow the 3 of us /// well i turn up late actaully so just as well mog was on time! me late? was well..  it went like this i set out ok.... and my plans are completely changed by the loss of a couple of fags in a box... like whe what etc i discover that i am carrying something from the church in my pocket that i should have unloaded the day and am sure that#s to blame for the packet falling out....  peh   ... so i set out needing to get some more.... then i want one and find a space of sanctuary i don't often stop in but ther is something of the Holy Spirit drawing me in ... i look and see i am not alone somebody is on the mobile..... and i pray and all of a sudden this person starts to cry on the phone/// so i think should i approach them and cos they continye the conversation on the phone i just pray for them.... ok so off i go arrive at destination and just have to have a fag before meeting the others.... i find that i can't get my prefered seat so i sit at seat two light up when this person parks their backside on the seat and starts to cough i get up and notice the other seat is empty person does not want me to go ... and reluctantly just cos o fthe smoke i sit down again cos methoughts this there was someything about the deliberate parking of backside that spoke of GOD appointment and somehow it was my evangelical tag of the day what is more there is me i spend all that time listening fascinated and sharing a bit of Faith and then i am late .... streetstuff always throws something new in the air and today... a GOD Appointment turned out to be a foreign person who though they seemed to speak english couldn't seem to understnd english i battled with one of us who of what they have said surely knows a little releavant language in the end GOD furnishes with some words of a language that i feel i should have greater ability with //// i persist though and GOD helps out with a few words none that i have never heard but sufficient to communicate GOD;s WORD and person is amazed theri name indicates something of a very special Spiritual inspiration from their family! a bit further on two folks are lingering and i feel prompted to approach them with a WORD in the language i have just been battling with .... they are not from the same country at all! so i translate back into english and they translate it into the correct language... and everyone feels Blessed! wow!  we pack up and just have a beautiful Ministry time! i am getting sooo much beautiful encouragement at the minute amazing!

GOD BLESS!

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Re: 2012 lent blog
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2012, 19:49:57 »

last night i sit on a bench and have a fag it is beautiful and quiet and somebody carrying a can walks past and... hey you know what them speaking to me and asking if they can share my bench... ??? GOD APPOINTMENT .... as they sit down at the other end.... and i acknowledge GOD appointment suddenly i see a small cluster of angels before me... i have to say that those prayers about having angels aroujnd are not always my idea of a good prayer but you know what... i was feeling a bit vulnerable in that moment and i remembered someone or two having prayed that can't quite connect to who... and i felt a peace.... person sits down and have a smoke... i am kind of not in the mood?.... and feel glad they don't actually speak to me.... when i get up i turn to them and say Jesus Loves you.... they look at me and say.. what?... i repeat the words kindof deadpan... something makes them break out in a smile of laughter i smile and say GOD BLESS! and go...

hummm...

 interestingly on the subject of church leaders and their behaviours... have been listening to some gossip that has shocked the world about a particular church leader gifted by their ability to attract a whole big congregation..... but their personal morals seem to be connected to something out of 1 Corinthians .... i have to say i seem to have got a bit bored of this whole morality thing ... what does any of it have to do with one's efficacy to do Jesus? well the answer has to be that if it does then... what's the problem and if it gets in the way then well ... time for choices!.. cos listening to somebody going on for the umpteenth time i turned to somebody and said .. sounds like they are onto a good thing there... they kind of smiled at that! i also like the one about ... a church where the announcement of the young church leader's engagement halved the congregation... the hopefull young ladies went elsewhere.... do i reaLLY  want to go to any of these churches... well the catholic one ... the priest is the least important person other than for ceremonial purposes so one can hide out amongst the icons and wait on GOD  there is some comfort in that...

so i kindov do ask GOD hey GOD where are we going this morning... are we goin catholic ?   no GO and GOD takes me to church... hey i really do have to have a conversation with GOD about ... ok GOD if You want to me to go there then surely it's for my own Blessing so i should be more cheerful than that... i look around it's kindov a gloomy day but i hear a couple of blackbirds and there is something about the spring and the buds and all that?.... i get to chat with some folks from church who catch my bus.... they are often late but hey today me i am late synchronised with them.... we meet somebody having a grumble about something not on and we invite them to church... i ask them if they want prayer for anything... and alone stop for prayer and we have a chat... and i have a pray ...will people welcome them i say tjhat we will...  they hopefully will come next time!  that feels much better!... worship is in full swing when i get to church...  i join in missing out the lines i don't want to sing which is quite a lot ...or completely changing the words... GOD is FOREVER GOD has already done the once and forever thing... so why do we not just get on with it .........and me i am in the midst of my lent practise that goes on to pentecost and i have been stops and starts all the way....   but i want to get stuck in now

church seems informal sitting around chatting emphasising fellowship while Jesus has  been Resurrected!... i avoid any evidence of 'the talk' but have a Glorious time doing Ministry... afterwards i am off to watch a very important football match... which is rather dull .... (have not been enjoying the footie this season and don't even applaud the win)

but the way there is not... i get a bus and GOD wants me to get off i am bemused but can see somebody in a queue for the bus i have recently met ... they are trying to avoid me but i get a word  in... i then look at the clock too early for the pub so now what?... i am dithering and a homeless person starts to speak to me i chat for a while and  offer to pray...  we have one of those i am not a believer /i AM a believer exchanges... yesterday i heard a moving account of  instinct for Jesus and the apparent distance of the church from what one expects.... like stories from WW1.... a man's story about the insanity of the spectacle of the padre who Blesses them to go and kill people... or be killed by people... the insanity of family that is intensely religious so much so that the one member who invites people for a meal then goes up  the street and invites all the homeless folks they meet to eat with them is despised..... the confusing message of the church and money; all robes and finery!!!!   i seem to be adding to the stock in terms of active experiences reasons why folks stay well clear of Spiritual practice and churches and yet are drawn someplace and GOD gets them to sit next to me on the bench and GOD gets me to get off the bus to go speak with them...  or any which way! i particularly like the one about... growing up in a christian household, but any interest quickly snuffed out due to objections to being forced to go to Sunday school !... i say that Jesus is on a level playing field with them on that one GOD doesn't want people to be forced to do anytjhing! (thagt's to do with GOD's Love and Perfect Timing!)...  further along the road i see somebody grappling with ventolin i say i'm a christian and ask if i can pray for them they say yes... wow!  ...i pray ... Happy Easter! ...say they Happy Easter! say i.... i'm drawn into a sidestreet and find myself face to face with a rabbit...pink eared one... i am engaging with them when what sounds like my name ... has GOD given them a word?.... i am talking to somebody who i have actually met before from long ago... and they look really different! i don't Spiritually engage with them in words but am prompted to offer to get them a drink (they don't need)... GOD gets a mention of course cos i confess about the wondering if GOD had given them this word to address me by name!

i seem to have escaped all the intensity of the acted out drama of the Easter Passion... the death and Resurrection of the Lord Jesus... some of it is cos i am so tired of the ritual... Jesus is a Living Jesus a 24/7 Jesus today tomorrow everyday and i feel quite glad for that... i am kndov carrying on as per a little helped by Jesus doing things like not letting me meditate of the stations of the cross not feeling drawn to the vigil though i nearly did.... playing a game with myself about maybe i can attend an eastern orthodox easter??? am i not fed up with religious ritual? am i not sick to the back teeth of what has gone before the years of folks get to Easter Sunday celebrate by indulging in the activities they have given up for the last 40 days (excluding feast days... you see i just do not getit!)... and that seems to be it ...to get to the same point a reminder that Jesus is Resurrected that Jesus lived the life of Jesus and that required being born of GOD and living the life GOD ordained 24/7 in complete Faith and endurance... i love the idea that the more times we go through this we get closer to doijng and understanding Jesus and to do this we have to understand the role of the Father in our lives.... on GOD's terms... to understand the role we have to live the role GOD gives us... i love that idea that all the young people of many years break out in song and dance and we see signs and wonders abound around them.... is it that we just are not quite living long enough as a humanity for this to be a part of nature phenomenon? or is something getting lost in translation?

if your lent has come to an end ... Bless you ! i pray wholeheartedly for your sense of GOD to be very very very Real and FULL of richness of BLESSING and SONG of the heart sing a new song! in the Name of Jesus!

GOD BLESS!

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Re: 2012 lent blog
« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2012, 18:51:26 »
hit flopped out...

well it was yesterday at church somebody asked me what i was doing for the rest of the day... i told them my limited itinerary and that i was all GOD's for the rest of the day... the Holy Spirit took hold of me in that moment and it was like i was being... laid back to rest.... so eventually i did... but not after finding a long Ministry session with a christian... i had no idea! i was thinking feeling shocked and embarrassed that i had no idea...  have you told ipcs at your church? yes....  it raised a lot of issues ... the person was carrying ongoing sense of trial and tribulation and had kept it pretty much to themselves... asking for prayer for symptoms but not letting on... oh how often do we do stuff like that....  i am currently reminiscing as i write /// about a situation some while back where i was doing pretty much the same sort of thing... i was praying almost like it never happened and i recall a bellowing in my ear as folks were praying for what i had asked without mentioning what the bellowing in my ear was putting some context to... it was a salutary lesson at the time but right now i am seeing the context in a different light cos what happened then was i took that bellowing somehow to heart in other words i was making a god out of this bellowing and its impact///and didn't quite deal with the everything in other words the impact of that bellowing bringing a sense of blame and with it shame and with it inaction and self reproachment now there is very little one can do when somebody is embraced in self reproachment when all there is to go on is well what one is told to pray for... however this is a great example of where GOD of course IS in the know and so it is completely ludicrous that we the citizens hear on earth to pray for GOD's Kingdom to Come in all the Fullness of His Manifestation of Glory just merrily pray for what we are asked to pray for with complete ignorance.... part of not being told more is that we are not trusted part of not being told more is that we are not supposed to know and truely we need to know nothing other than see that our prayers are well we can see that only touching the surface/// now i am getting back to the bellowing in my ear that i did not mention to those praying for me at the time... i now see a spirit actually getting in the way and causing a massive distraction from the cause of the Gospel which is GOD's One and Only desire which is to set me free for the fullness of purpose!.... namely that i learn more by the full action of the Gospel than the half baked truths of not quite saying what is on mind...  and i go further right now to venture it was actually irrelevant to trusting the good folks of the prayer gathering with the detail but what was relevant was a complete misunderstanding of the Gospel leaving me completely frigid for a very long time ... but i see that now ... i did not see that then ... though GOD did loads to fill in the stuff of theology of the LOVE of GOD it's theology! in the intervening years/// if only i had understood then? well ok i ask you this then : why is it the christians round me or person i was talking to or anywhere else so far oblivious to either the Gospel or at the very least the humanitarian plight of a single sufferer who looks like they are suffering/doesn't look like they are suffering but they don't look right? How is it that Jesus in the Gospels can just Heal thousands like that? and we can't even see the suffering... we are all such sugar sacharine pill placebo effect addicted prayers.... and it does trouble me! at the very least we can offer GOD's Advice ie we can press into change by asking GOD for Revelation

on the other hand most of the christians i know love to know things about theri neighbour and have a good gossip.... one wonders how much a bogstandardchristian really has to know before they start getting Spiritual! Jesus Heart is somehow full of Compassion and out of that Compassion a full desire to set the captive free and see the broken hearted fully Healed and the Day of Favour of the Lord Released...

recently GOD seemed to want me to go to a particular christian community... well that's how i read it when i suddenly seemed to have a brief picture come smack in my head when i was thinking... it was rather odd though cos the day it happened was perfect notice for the next service only.... the next service i found out wasn't happening in fact some rather dramatic stuff had been happening with the community!/////   i wasn't prepared for this.... they had sacked their leader and an entire leadership team had left!.... i had sporadic dealings with them and quite suddenly of late there was something i felt completely surprised by and a number of stuff was leaving me rather uneasy and i guess chattering to GOD... i had hoped to include some into some of the ecumenical things we sometimes do .. but there was no way i was going to then!!! ... it's this theme of who are our friends and influences and is everything GOD or is it not? tbh i don't know a single group of christians that is not affected by this and apparently inspected by other christians who are the last to look at whether there are any planks of theri own....    i was shocked and dispaoointed cos i expected the knowledge of GOD to be a sound truth and here was the allowing or if you like bowing to other gods coming interfering?.... and what is more there was a clear discomfort there like deep down the spirit knew something was wrong...  ! so on hearing the dramatic news of a shift in the heirarchy i was at first shocked then remembered why i was feeling queasy in that setting and finally though later.... wow GOD YOU HAVE BEEN BIZZY are doing something!!!!! the shift the rift far from being a tragedy seems potentially a liberation and Blessing whatever the actual events or circumstances and the fact that the people i know have the best connections with are all now chucked out i look forward to going to meet with the rest again.... i find myself invited to a couple of things one being the new group including all those to me vexatious influences.... oh GOD oh GOD why are You Forsaken please come rescue me!

GOD BLESS!

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Re: 2012 lent blog
« Reply #40 on: April 11, 2012, 12:46:07 »
the oh deariness oh day!

i have been hiding behind the sofa again and it#s well.... GOD presenting me with appointment after appointment and me i find myself....  can i tell you i've been a bit concerned ...  it looks like this... seems loadsa folks i know though slightly are all coming out in plaster casts and crutches... when i sat down yesterday and looked and thought ouch!.... and wanted to offer to pray couldn't think what to say and it would have well no... well i did not.... and then there was who's casts are now off and... well no i did not... i pondered and prayed and asked for the Holy Spirit and so on and me well i bottled it... though i prayed ...and then.... the day has slipped by with more silent prayers... and here we are sitting in today

ok as i read through the list in my mind feels like GOD is on them in a good way!... me for a moment was thinking oh no and struggling with that... oh no it almost looks as if ... am i seriously that dangerous to be introduced to? am i seriously... sure i want prayer opportunities but does that mean that my acquaintances have to suffer?  it's all a bit weird...... yesterday it felt  a bit too weird! too much coincidence...   i mean the whole point is that the christian outreaches on opportunity offers hospitality... i understand that the word translated as hospitality from the greek into our church vernacular actually means love for/of the stranger and i like this! surely that doesn't include accidents to prove GOD's Love, i then later start thinking well actually i don't know that much detail about the incidents of injury other than GOD is in control.... it occurs maybe this is just that GOD presenting injury to the praying person all is Blessing somewhere other than!!!! praying person bottles out!  Come on GOD sort out!!!

GOD BLESS!

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Re: 2012 lent blog
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2012, 19:13:01 »
now GOD appointments are gone into silent mode... i'm that far away from anything can it be that .... or ..... or even.....   or all things to all men?

ajh yes....  well the silent GOD appointment went like this....   you see it was about dunno 40 minutes later when i return to my bench to find it overoccupied ... there's another coupla benches a short walk away and so i make my way there all the benches are occupied but hey you know what... there is..... somebody is overtly sitting at the end of a bench leaving the other end invitingly underoccupied.... the somebody is one i saw earlier and there was something about the way that they turned to look at me and left their glance staring as they glid away that made me alert .... so 40 minutes later there i am joining the other end of the bench.. and having a smoke so i light up and sit with my back to person who apparently is chuntering away to themselves and i am praying ... and when i have finished kindov look at this person a mixture of Spiritualities i can tell with some New Agey glow.... and that's what it was and i find myself plum walking behind a stranger with crutches yet again!

i am attracted to them they to me today was earlier nearly moowed down by man without legs but plenty of wheelie...  there's something about you know wanting to reach out and touch and heal... go on give him some new legs... you say and eagerly i want to ... the promise of new legs ... yes it's no small thing to us AND it's somehow no big thing to Jesus ... it's not alien to our imaginations and certainly not in our exposure to the animated visual arts or cartoons and what have you's ...


 is it that our generations have our visions opaqued by that we can actualiise things ... on a piece of paper or a screen and that suffice is this the limitiation of the enlightmenmnet that if we can imagine then it is done? compare to stories of dramatic Healings based on what GOD is doing say in some other cultures? dunno that sounds more like me lookijg for an escape... AND at the same time echoing what i hear all the time from folks that tell about GOD does all this Healing through all the methods He uses... i tell you i am getting thoroughly anxious about christians and their relationships to the health service and healings of all sorts... and perhaps most of all to theri  bodies and the bodies of others... i mean they seemn to have just as much if not more physical misery than the rest of society.... the one view of healing that  i like is the neanderthal one ie that the body itself actually has the chemistry and physiology to bring about it's own Healing and everyone manages to interfere in that process whether it is cos of the circumstances they are in ie physically or even socially that's before we get to the crime and punishment or over indulgence of our growing up times...

there does that or does that not sound like right wing conservative versus liberal christianity i mean just in the culture of deprivation and its inherent violence or that of laissez faire forming a smokescreen ... neither truely helps at the level of need though... the one doesn't get or believe in Grace is perhaps terrified of Grace... imagine having to admit you were wrong in legalistic terms and then losing all your friends and relations!.... the other believes they've got Grace but denies the potential of Power imagine having to give up all that middle class restrictions and privelege and social status and actually have to see folks well different and not so dependent?

one fears intensely a future of boringness everyone Healed it will be like Heaven which will be a little more boring than having all those terribly interesting bad and broken guys around you'll never guess what i heard yesterday!... shucks! so we all vigorously busy ourselves look busy even chasing our own tails!....

Jesus Wins ... that would be nice that will be nice that being nice that is NICE!

GOD BLESS!

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« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2012, 20:14:11 »
hmm i've actually come back here... cos i just need to say it... i am so fed up with.... somebody is spending even more time than me here today and not for the first time... i just feel totally interfered with.... my space that is and of course that is GOD's space wherever space is the height the breadth the depth and all that.... so who am i to complain.... person goes on about and let's be clear when they say that i am glad why should i not be they are feeling GOD ... they tell me... i kindov am a bit deadpan about that... you see it's cos they is having a run of difficulty that they is here and .. i guess they is grumbling you see it's that thing about fellowship and Grace the Grace to walk side by side and not make a heave ho difference?.... i'm telling you this it got critical in the last year when somebody ok they had actually stopped coming to our church even though they was well loved and had well a role... but it somehow wasn't enough and it was enough that the above boxes were ticked and somehow it was in effect enough that not only were the boxes ticked they were the right ones to be ticked?... so if they was so tickedc off that they left... then? well... they died quite suddenly and unexpectedly and we was asked to be at the funeral and it was well embarrassing to listen to what folks said or spoke of poor soandso...and i am you see raging is this the best we can offer of the Gospel and the answer seems to be for the time beijg i guess yes!? and is this ok???? you see liberation seems to be you are allowed to leave the chruch if you so desire.... Grace is you can stay.... and so it is that my noise is put out of joint by Grace... but what of the Gospel doing stuff.... you see the whole i feel GOD thing is quite plausable but nauseatingly out of sync with what that's gonna mean cos well.... person is sitting with one of those screens before them showing a picture no not of Jesus but of inspirational person of the opposite sex... does that sound Spiritual for you... is it cuter that way more cute than some person across the street/// sporting exactly the same pic pose but just a different face ... on their screen?   well as you can see today is not a day of sympathy cos it sure don't look like stuff is more than the face of you know that old term 'rescuer' the bain of women's existence oh and of course some men too.... you know the addicted to co-dependence whether friend lover or stranger....  and i am sick of it... come on Lord where is Your Fire for actual Transformation....  ok i have this issue it's about being comfortable in our own ways in our own selves along with our own foibles secret or otherwise.....where though is the alternative ?at the end of the day there are all sorts of factors that take place.... 

here's a good one i and it well it reflects where exactly... like my invisibility has made me feel a little suspicious i put up my hand to that!...

i am given a message with some unexpected praise... ok at first i feel very warm about that .... then later though some additional info comes up... and oh no ambiguity of motivation creeps in... what actually is the problem.. well it is this... me i have done some stuff... i have put up muy  hand for the all inclusive or so it is advertised special teaching/training day... i am rejected... wha you said it was open to all.... so i do not go on the day and am completely fuming at the subtext that is so subtext it becomes prety much normative of the church to view me in this onesided subtext view cos we all know that subtexts are treated like the small print on an insurance document you ain't gonna ... unless... well uyou either ignore them or take them pretty seriously ... and they will count when the chips are down...

well quite recently though months ago... GOD completely surprised me by speaking to me audibly on the street saying that GOD did not want me to go on this specialist traning within the church.... wow!!! suddenly any angst vanished GOD was telling me that was not part of GOD's plan and well i guess i was not quite believing him! it had never occured to me that might be the case.. and as soon as GOd had spoken and it was kind of tucked away safe out of any obvious immediate need to have something like that clarified... wow it opened new doors new vistas and it made me feel pretty solid in GOD again! like GOD was in control like Papa knows best and all that and li,ke Papa actually has a plan.... and so it was ... i declared GOD as my boss my Teacher etc... and all of a sudden wow! i did not come under their jurisdiction but under GOD's under GOD's means understanding GOD's internal structures... that sort of learning ,,as it were.... and the world not making much sense is a good thing n'estpas? the world of the man;s world of the church or religion upper structures like that ND  all that!////  oh and i am given a message about giving out some info on the matter so suddenly i become really wary...

but i will tell uyou the one thing that hurt that really hurt was when .... there was a small group of us standing there receiving what GOD was GOOD GIVING us someone saying there is the Holy Spirit,,, on so and so and so and so and etc etc... well at the time ... well all of a sudden they said the Holy Spirit is always on you well most of the time..... what!!!?????? i had been in the same room as them thinking they thought i was completely Spiritually inferior and a Spiritual wilderness for well years!    and there was this contradiction in what they were actually seeing and how they were relating to me////  you know what compare that to being complemented in something that is more practical and suddenly you know where my values are stacked up!

ok am off again now

GOD BLESS!

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Re: 2012 lent blog
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2012, 23:26:04 »
..this feels not my finest hour... me am zombified and still struggling with some stuff for the church i have been at it for hours!  begining with great gusto knowing that i have to do gthis and yes it will take a while but!....  the journey begins with the compatible surroundings of somebody else doing some such stuff we chat for a bit and i get started then somebody goes and someone else arrives and pisses me off i've told them not to... and there they are at it again..now i ask you who view this scene with the slightest of knowledge from afar... what is it that dictates that somebody uses terms that come across with disrespect and are invited to reconsider and all they can seem to do is disregard information... i close the door,,, and they close the door now who i ask wants to be alone.... there is a spiritual energy that is somehow well what language should one use to describe a malignancy a prowl around listless unhappy not taking any steps whatsoever and carrying on in abomination... now of course reading all that you oh christian if you have been listening to the teaching paying attention you will know that can be none other than ..... a homosexual energy.. of course! seems the only sexual energy of any negativity of nature is homosexual oh unless you count in the occasional harpie woman or so...

ah i was wondering when we was gonna get to this ... as we drift off from the angry person completely off piste ... it reminds me of though manifests differently a time i had where i was extremely vulnerable and was despairingly chattering to GOD and under extreme fear ... like some place is not quite getting to ??? like when was this ever going to end?...  scarey times for the churched christian....  un... well it was a very interesting time the church 'experts' proved to be no expertise in anything to the extent all they could do was say a few words vaguely and run for the hills!  and me i hope was not treating them with disrespect on the contrary i went to them for their advice and comfort and guidance and was given the recipe psalm to learn off by heart... for some reason that didn't quite work even when i put my faith in that well ... how much faith was faith and where did faith come from?..... you see while the good church folks were hiding behind theri sofas me i was no further to having my plight remotely resolved.... and yet can you believe GOD is in Control?  so you see i can see it from both sides and ... am i making this about pride? no not exactly i can see person is suffering and am even reminded as i scribble here that when somebody is rude it's cos they need some Spiritual attention... well i know this person needs some Spiritual attention and they is the one before me and all i can think of is to keep the door shut .... and be terribly affronted... part of the proiblem is they say they are seeking some help from elsewhere and me well i is a little more  cautious about what that might mean .. but heys am i making any sort of difference hey you can see by my confession i is completely ignoring everything!

earlier today somebody turned up ... and totally ignored me and totally engrossed themselves in the others who are kind and gentle but hey we have only just met and me hey well.... wanna know what ?... in the last few days that person keeps bumping into me... me ! me! even though they love the others and completely don't care for me i have to prove myself somehow and i don't like those sorts of games... i just do what i understand / respond to.... but we have an odd moment actually it was an amazing one... one of the gentle folk was talking about a miracle.... it was Joshua approaching the river Jordan when GOD says they need to walk into the Jordan they need to step into the river and the river will part before their eyes... they need to step into their miracle... that had an effect on me!.... you see see you need to step into your miracle!... the person who is ignoring me is in one of those places... i talk about peace and they say there is only one place of peace ... i stumble a bit and fumble ...  this was about teaching and belief? hey no... it's about the issues and i pray out loud about them! and find myself animated about the belief stuff... like one person's belief is what...  anyhows i have made my point somehow and leave the others to themselves... me i am feeling a bit irritated with the conversation... but tell me when... when one person is talking stuff that is so ... why are church people so scarey... i find the rest of my time with these gentle folks is really irritating .. i cannot believe what i am hearing...  it is not one of my better days... oh and yes i feel under inspection under scruteny like i have to prove myself and you know what that's a completely uninteresting agenda cos my Jesus LOVES ME and my JESUS LOVES MY ENEMY TOO so LORD please Save my enemies in the Holy Name of Jesus! AMEN

GOD BLESS!

Peace and Love,

oh and we didn't quite get to... but GOD WILLING it will happen!

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Re: 2012 lent blog
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2012, 14:40:04 »
...just a qwik whizzthrough before i get my peace interrupted again by som eone!

oh my!!! being up so late with church stuff... had to be rescued by... i was is falls asleep radio on and everything.... lights on... second day in a row... it somehow is not the best .... but it means i is upnearly... it was kindov nice though to wake up to folks talking about the Holy Spirit and tbh i might have bunked off church had i not been the last man standing with stuff that had to get there on time!.. so i makes way to bus stop and .... i can hear this noise more noise eventually turn my head ....and.....someone is driving me to church! yo!

it's really weird to be there so early... make myself bizzy got my shades on and .... well there is just time to be late for worship... i rush off to some shops and buy a comb...  no the problem is ... i am proud owner of a complete pair of combs that have gone missing both of them for some days and though i am pretty sure they are somewhere my searches have not found them....   i am an embarrassment to .....  there's only so much finger combing one can get away with ... and today is not looking good for that at all!....  so now i am proud owner of three  combs for now anyhow...

i'm really not into the topic and no sooner has the speaker made it even less likely i will be interested than i am off for the hills.... taking my bible... get it out think hey i will... and find a really short passage for my attention.. i REALLY like THIS ONE... and mull it over a little breathlessly.... suddenly feel the need to return... and yup someone is praying and the Presence of the Release of GOD has me running there....  i stand off and am bid to join the pair ... so i join in...  and somehow Ministry remains out there out of the main room until everything is packed up ready to go... with a change of personnell... or two..

me'n'mog go for coffee... mog has been a bit out of sorts of late and it's GOD that takes over and brings us sitting at the same table staring out into the world drinking coffee mulling over what GOD has achieved... i do get a GOD appointment mog is not really interested but i am delighted with GOD! it runs like this and actually mog was absent when somebody who can only be described as a GOD appointment so Ga wanders over and stands before the table... i look up at them and they say they are not coming to stare at me and me i say i know that and that i am feeling a bit left out and they are welcome to join our table... they smile go into the cafe.... mog disappears Ga returns chat continues i am asked how i am i explain we have just been to church... and ask if they want any prayer for anything.... they say for something... i say cool i begin to pray i am praying the sweetest words about this and that and... they keep saying pray for something ... and i get to an interesting exit but and pray for something too... as i mull it over now i am really intrigued ...  aaaaarggggghhhhh i have told you already that i have had all these GOD Appointments to pray for this person and that one and even had prayer to that effect and here i am being desperately coached by the person who GOD has brought to pray for and....... i am bottling it again?....  like i say aaaaaarrrrrrghhhh!

mog returns preoccupied.... and aaaaargh! oh brother!

no wonder GOD gets people here there and everywhere to pick up the pieces of Ministry the christians leave behind... i was telling mog this ... mog who was preoccupied was completely underwhelmed.... me i is over excitable!wow!!!

''mm gonnago before my peace is interrupted !   sssh don't tell anyone i said so


GOD BLESS!

Peace and Love,


oh by the way has Jesus told you today How Much Jesus Loves you?


cos welll Jesus does... LOVE YOU!  yep that means you.. and you and you too GOD BLESS!
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