daddy's boy cleggy boy on er social mobility er strategy

[ecuworrier]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/apr/05/nick-clegg-social-mobility-strategy


hahahaha!!!

er what is he talking about please explain to me...


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[administrator]

The elite will never let that happen..

Spin!

[AndrewF]

Well - he should know about this as this is how he got his first job - as he admits!
Actually I don't see why this fact should mean that he is unable to see that the situation is in need of a few changes...

[ecuworrier]

Well - he should know about this as this is how he got his first job - as he admits!
Actually I don't see why this fact should mean that he is unable to see that the situation is in need of a few changes...

well that may as be but i don't see that his background is the remotest help in the same way that Gordie Brown's faith in his own background and upbringing lost analysis some place...  if anything in practise it hampered his perspective more than it saw through what was needed as change in the same way Obama's and so on...

ignore the tories background they are signed up not to care really

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[ecuworrier]

i am curious though that the media is running with this level of hypocrasy

it does raise the question like Andrew asks well who or what can be done to make an actual difference in our society?


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[Martin]

I'm informed by a friend who has worked in Belgium that, over there, any company with more than a certain multiples of turnover/profit, must take on people leaving education, for a year, at the same salary level as other employees of similar qualifications.  This gives the graduates/school leavers experience in real work, and helps to launch them in their career.  The company can select who they want to take, but they must have the right numbers of such staff per unit of turnover.  Obviously, if a company has to do this, then it's in the company's interest to find suitable work for these people, and make some money out of them.  Seems like a reasonable system to me, and without this exploitative business of getting people to work for nothing.

[AndyHB]

i am curious though that the media is running with this level of hypocrasy

Not sure that there is any hypocrisy, here, ecu.  Fathers (and to a lesser degree mothers) have been getting their children jobs in this way for centuries.  The father of the guy who I do Tools With A Mission with was the station master at the old Tongwynlais station and got John a job at the local boilermaker's. I know of plenty of older folk whose parents 'put in a good word' for them at this or that local business so that the proprietor took their child on rather than someone else's.

It isn't, by any means, restricted to the elite or the wealthy as a practice.  That said, I wonder whether there should be some sort of payment - and many do pay, by the way.  Only seems to be the banks and the other already rich firms who don't!!

[AndrewF]

I don't believe anyone should be expected to work for nothing. It does however seem reasonable (to me) to expect to pay someone with no experience less than someone who does have some; so I would not go along with Martin' idea (or the Belgian system if you prefer Martin!), but probably have a pay review every 4 months for the first year or so until they have learned the job, rather than just every year.
As for putting in a word for your son, yes, it has been going for a long time and is a tried and tested method which works well, as the employer, knowing the sort of person th father is, would have some idea of the sort of person the son is likely to be rather than having to make a judgment on a 5-minute interview of someone they have no prior knowledge of.  Also, the kid, being aware of the fact that his father's reputation is on the line as well, is more likely to make the effort to perform well - at least that is the idea!