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Offline ecuworrier

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NHS for richer for poorer?
« on: September 02, 2011, 11:23:37 »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/sep/01/nhs-plans-put-wealthy-first

rich foreigners have always had it so good haven't they when they come here all poorly and are treated..... but now there are fears that the future is gonna shift  the priorities of the NHS which the poor folks are paying their taxes towards....  towards being a private hospital for the rich and famous......


and the poor well can read all about it...


so we have cause for concern and actually what should we respond with?

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Re: NHS for richer for poorer?
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2011, 22:25:31 »
Sorry Ecu but I think you have the wrong end of the stick here - conflating two arguments and adding 2 + 2 to get 5
The foreigners who get treatment on the NHS are EU citizens, and we have reciprocal rights in all other EU countries.
#As for the alleged shift in priorities to only the rich getting treatment that is b******s. Treatment will still be free at point of netd (at least, as free as it is at the moment - bearing in mind prescription charges and NHS dental fees etc!). The 'fact' that the treatment will, in some cases, be provided by a private hospital is  a canard.  At the moment (and for many years past) the NHS consultants have had private work in private hospitals at the same time as having NHS work in NHS hospitals - and half the nurses in both sectors are actually agency nurses anyway, so it is likely to be the same person who treats you either way. What organisation actually provides the care (be it private under contract to the NHS or a direct NHS hospital) is irrelevant provided the cost of contracting the private hospital is not more that the cost of the same treatment in an NHS hospital for an equivalent service. In many cases it could be less as the private hospital is likely to be keeping a closer eye on the expenses since it need to make a profit. However please not that I said an equivalent service - which precludes cutting corners in, for example, cleanliness of the wards. - Regardless of that point though the fact remains that whatever establishment/organisation is actually providing the care it will STILL BE FREE AT POINT OF NEED regardless of the wealth of the patient.
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Re: NHS for richer for poorer?
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 17:32:14 »
the article was stating the opposite... it's that budget pressure budget crisis thang that doctor was expressing his concerns that the NHS will be pressured into ignoring the treatment needs of the poor in favour of the paying rich...  not sure what the arrangements have previously been regarding non EU poorly folks

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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2011, 12:26:28 »
The doctor may well be worried that this could happen, but the govt has promised that it wont. You pays your money and you takes your choice!
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Re: NHS for richer for poorer?
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2011, 13:56:09 »
and if you has no money..

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