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Offline BostonTommy

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Philosophical pondering
« on: March 28, 2011, 00:43:05 »
I looked at the three areas covered by this space, and wondered if "Culture", "Media" and "Sport" aren't mutually incompatible categories of discussion?

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Re: Philosophical pondering
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2011, 08:43:15 »
I've always wondered about the randomness of having sports sections and news in papers and so on - seems an arbitrary choice somehow - why not crafts, or parenthood or education, or even religion(!!!)?  What's so special about sport that it has its own section, not that I am saying there shouldn't be any news of it.  I'm just wondering about the assumption that it requires attention daily and that it's ring fenced.  Is it a man thing?

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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2011, 09:55:13 »
I've always wondered about the randomness of having sports sections and news in papers and so on - seems an arbitrary choice somehow - why not crafts, or parenthood or education, or even religion(!!!)?  What's so special about sport that it has its own section, not that I am saying there shouldn't be any news of it.  I'm just wondering about the assumption that it requires attention daily and that it's ring fenced.  Is it a man thing?
JJ, I think that there is a place in society for sport - both men's and women's - and there are plenty of women who are interested in sports, from F1 to rugby, netball or hockey.  Sadly, there doesn't seem to be enough coverage of women's sports in newspapers' columns.
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Re: Philosophical pondering
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2011, 14:09:37 »
yes, it's a man thing, which is why there is never any women's sport in there really
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Re: Philosophical pondering
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2011, 15:58:14 »
sport?  what  is it we discuss really?  being a couch potato and or a gambler...

it is apart from war wine and women the biggest distraction from facing reality there is for a man.... or is sport just the modern equivalent of war?

can't speak for the other couch potatos here.... but jj as a tv addict i did come to like watching sport as a form of realitivity tv... compared to a whole lot of general nonsense in this broad genre.... 

i really have no idea what attracts men to that much distraction

it would be better if it really were like well  like watching a dog watching a moving object.. i guess... but me i like dogs

however .... given that we need a tidyness of some sort.... Boston Tommy what would you prefer as a title......


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Re: Philosophical pondering
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2011, 16:04:52 »
ah yes... women's sport...

have watched a bit of champions league footie and thought as someone who has watched a bit of the men's game at all levels ...hey there's loads can be learned from this.....   it was the women's version

that's probs the problem with culture media and sport... not watching women's sport at the highest levels

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Re: Philosophical pondering
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2011, 16:48:54 »
It's interesting that womens atheletics and tennis get equal coverage on TV. perhaps other sports need to be have the same inclusive structure to them.

or is it that our public service broacaster is more concerned with ratings to show womens sport?

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Re: Philosophical pondering
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2011, 16:56:14 »
I wasn't thinking of a change of title, nor even of dividing the topic, just thinking that there's no culture in the media or sport, no sport in culture - that kind of thing. 

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Re: Philosophical pondering
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2011, 19:01:16 »
dunno about equal coverage of women's sport.... also and i don't have regular access to tv (thankfully) but they are really selective as to what sports are covered and who they would see and supporting british competitors ... methinks with these emphases no wonder brits are not as competitive as they might be except in certain sports... even for high participation sports like martial arts squash that are reasonably accessible to start out on.....

women's sports that could get more coverage .... netball? which is pretty fast moving and non stop but hey

Boston Tommy how can you say that sport is not culture?....  whatever one thinks of it ..... the preoccupation and endeavour and conversation of the day ...  all those tribal songs and all that?

what is culture...  it certainly is a preoccupation of the media... BBC jhas dedicated an entire radio station to it... there is nothing worse than looking forward to some live chat only to find that the show has been hijacked by the world series baseball game or the boxing or something....   live news does not seem to have a shared gravitas of ditching say an inngland footie friendly in favour of live broadcast of something that actually matters! ... is that culture or culture setting!


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Re: Philosophical pondering
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2011, 22:37:06 »
Ah, yes! the other meaning of "culture".  I assumed that the meaning was "high" culture - opera, books by James Joyce, that kind of thing.  The sounds I hear from Portman Road at a home game don't sound very operatic, although some players (not Ipswich players, of course) might sneak into "culture" on the basis of acting out a false foul! 

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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2011, 21:21:15 »
Ah, yes! the other meaning of "culture".  I assumed that the meaning was "high" culture - opera, books by James Joyce, that kind of thing.  The sounds I hear from Portman Road at a home game don't sound very operatic, although some players (not Ipswich players, of course) might sneak into "culture" on the basis of acting out a false foul! 

David

haha  sounds like ... the fans has great potential  (one of the teams i do look out for when are they coming back to the premiereship?)  at least as much as the likes of us... cos....i wasn't aware that many of us spent too much time doin 'high' culture round here.... not that i is objecting if that is wrong!  we certainly are very shy about it if we do   which is a shame!

so what 'high' culture are you into?

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