Anti abortionist movement goes mainstream?

[ecuworrier]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/may/26/softly-softly-working-for-anti-abortionists

last night there was mention on the radio?newspaper? of the brand new sexual health council or something like that... taking over from disbanded ones...  BPAS that had been disinvited though it seems they didn't want to play jobshare with marie stopes.... while newcomers to the table are Life the antiabortionists....

is it good or relevant to have abstainers on the same panel as is to discuss issues around sexual health?

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[pow wow]

ecu,
Why not? I can tell you as one who has abstained for years, I am not unhealthy. Abstaining is the best form of preventing nasty std's, unwanted pregnancies etc, etc. The Bible promotes abstinance until one weds. But the pickers and choosers will ignore that scripture. There is nothing Godly, peaceful, painless, nor loving in ripping apart the bodies of innocent babies in the wombs of their mothers. Somehow society has conned itself into accepting the destruction of the baby as the answer to whatever the hardship or the horror the mother may or may have to face. Killing a baby in the womb and this is well documented has a forever negative effect on the mother. Physical and mental. It is a innocent human baby in there and all mothers and most others know this to be true. The murder of the guiltless party is no answer. I beleive each and every baby is home with Jesus and we all are responable for their deaths. It enrages me that my tax dollars goes to promote the murder of babies in their mothers womb. Is this the message of Christ that some of you believe in? And being adopted, I must tell ya, I'm thankful that my bio mom put herself out for nine months in order that I might have a long life. Come on, let's get the terrorists and keep our babies! A friend of our was a missionary nurse in Mexico, she was ****. She came home and had a deformed little baby boy. That little boy is now a very successful young man, he's just missing some fingers that's all. How could anyone believe he hadn't the right to a life. How could his murder have helped my friend any. No, she has a loving son today and I don't think abortion even crossed her mind. Sorry to burst your bubble but right to lifers have always been mainstream. I've watched the silent scream and have a book on the testemonies of women who have had abortions, it's the worst non-solution. I think many pro choicers know they are decieving women when they encourage them to kill their babies. Shameful.

[Boudi]

I don't think there is anything wrong with the absinence message per se, so long as it's part of a wider advice panel.  It certainly wouldn't do as blanket advice, but may well be a comfort to those who don't want to go full steam ahead.

[AndyHB]

I don't think there is anything wrong with the absinence message per se, so long as it's part of a wider advice panel.  It certainly wouldn't do as blanket advice, but may well be a comfort to those who don't want to go full steam ahead.

I would say that it has a vital part to play in the process.  Sadly, for far too long we have had an unbalanced advisory panel, whose message has been based on a misrepresentation that everyone will necessarily have sex and therefore it is for them to tell people how to keep themselves safe whilst doing so - ignoring the fact that a large percentage - (and it can be difficult to tell whether that is a majority or a large minority amongst the youth of the nation) have other things to do with their lives, such as study, sport, hobbies and don't want to be told that they are expected to have sex because it is 'normal' to do so.

[tranchiebabe]

Sex is a normal part of life, especially among the younger members of society providing it is consensual and sensible precautions are taken. Obviously if you haven't a partner you can always DIY!

However we should empower our young people to say no to sexual advances until they are mature enough to handle them sensibly. As far as I know our kids didn't indulge in the activity until they were 18+.

[AndyHB]

Sex is a normal part of life, especially among the younger members of society

Though I'm not sure that its as 'normal a part of life' as some would have us believe.

However we should empower our young people to say no to sexual advances until they are mature enough to handle them sensibly.

I think that this is the important point; and teaching abstention not only empowers young people (especially, but not exclusively, girls) to say no, it points out to the lads that there is another way.  I took precious little interest in this whole area until I was into my 20s - I was so busy with sport and politics that they got in my way rather, and was also moving around the country (even the world) a lot at this early stage of my adult life.

[ecuworrier]

like it ! a range of views..

it does occur to me that the issue of sexual health dangers of having sex might have a bigger emphasis cos the antiabortionists might like to fluff out their arguments a bit... personally i think this is a pretty good thing! however it also occurs to me that if these dangers are emphasised for folks who are not married then surely they should also be emphasised for folks who are married too...

 sure the nasties of STDs have traditionally been associated with promiscuous sex or partners but surely some of these can potentially be transmitted by means other than sexual contact and some are endemic within the population... some find expression where the person is in poor physical condition etc... meanwhile sexual injuries and other sexually transmissable diseases like genital warts to cervical cancer and any others can occur within marriage so if abstinence is a good thing outside marriage surely it is as good a thing within marriage...

powow ... unwanted pregnancies do not occur (at least normally) in order that women can choose to have abortions... a morality that does not deal with the prevention of unwanted pregnancy ie the behaviour mentality social view and relationshjip to sex of men first and foremost is in my view no morality at all


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Peace and Love,