i have absolutley no doubt that on tickbox values we all fail on eachothers assessments... so if any of us (or for that matter anyone we know or can think of who self identifies as christian ) were in charge of the keys of Heaven then the intake numbers would be quite small ....  thankfully Jesus is in control!

Interesting the source that said he was a Christian was something like Steve Chalke's Oasis/Faithworks group, IIRC, whilst the other was a non-religious group.