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Offline ecuworrier

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republican nomination race 2011
« on: August 15, 2011, 15:29:18 »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14500115


a very colourful collection of observations of the US nomination for republican presidential cndidit

does one feel envious or relieved  over this side of the pond?

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Re: republican nomination race 2011
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 21:55:27 »
does one feel envious or relieved  over this side of the pond?
Both, if that's possible.  It's good to see that some folk are willing to stand, but then the other half of my brain simply tells me that we will get yet another hopeless case, either as nominee or President.  Currently, my disaffection with American politics is probably at its lowest: had hoped that Obama's election would lift that feeling, but he seems as hopeless as the last half dozen have been
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2011, 12:53:42 »
Bless you Andy!...  i can see how the hype of his hyperventilated campaign seemed to bring an illusion of hope for change in real terms we had that in 1997.... and here again in 2010 young untried men with smart speeches ...  unfortunately there is a gap that rhetoric cannot bridge the gap of transcending experience ie the view that experience does not matter it is like comparing Todd Bentley with Smith Wigglesworth....   that said i guess we all feel that experience is what got us into the mess we are in in the first place so they aren't going to sort it...

i have only vaguely been following the american saga .... the media worthiness of the bratpack t-party reminds me a little of hitler's rise to power if that is not too extreme a comparison... they saythat about 70% of americans don't support their tax reductions for the rich policies in principle pound for pound so they are not exactly representing the electorate ... but hey what's new....  and such extreme right wing republican agenda has not been seen since the 1920s in America ... theeri vociferousness and brinkmanship shown in recent weeks emulated in part along democratic lines illustrates the problems inherent in a system that elects representatives based on their ability to fool most of the people at least some of the time.... and the bipartisan nature of politics that we have here.... 

from afar ... and cos it is real life it does look rather comicbook colourful... the reality is that .... oh dear the reality is... we are living in worrying times and if one is able to sit back a little then we are also living in an era where the 'old guard' is increasingly being rejected .... look at the european leaders beyond brit/US for example...  and who on earth would we trust in the 'i don't know' era... but the media friendly person? who gets all the air time? how can we spot a genuine salvator?

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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2011, 21:21:38 »
I wasn't so much thinking about the Tea Party per se - rather that the last 30+ years in American politics has been predominantly divisive, with very little attempt by any President, let alone senior party leaders to develop any real unity in that Union.
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2011, 08:01:36 »
I hope to goodness Obama gets in again, the Republicans are VERY bad news. especially as right wing Christian fundamentalism plays a big part in their politics.  The world would be a more dangerous place with that lot in power.

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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2011, 08:40:52 »
I hope to goodness Obama gets in again, the Republicans are VERY bad news. especially as right wing Christian fundamentalism plays a big part in their politics.  The world would be a more dangerous place with that lot in power.
Whilst agreeing with the comment about right-wing fundamentalism (though one could question their self-definition as Christian) my concern about Obama (and every President since I can remember) is that he has been extremely divisive.  I believe that the Medicare idea is very important, but every time it has been introduced to the Hill, it has been done in such a way as to allow it to be ridiculed and attacked by its opponents, rather than as a positive and valuable development; reminiscent of the way that the Poll Tax was introduced here in the early 80s, the principle of which (everyone puts something into the pot) was very good.
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2012, 18:32:27 »
ooh and here we are nearing the gate/// with someone who looks like Kerry well that should tell him something and someone else who is a household name and who will win what exactly? is there ever a point where folks say 'you know what donors have your dosh back this just ain't gonna happen...'

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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2012, 12:48:58 »
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