Belfast riots ... UVF blamed

[ecuworrier]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-13872381

of course you should be allowed to be a bigot marches: the source of dischord ... or not?

are we shocked or surprised?

do we really care? NI is a forrun country after all ..troubles have been brewing there for a while

GOD BLESS!

Peace and Love,

[Boudi]

eh?   Can't understand much of this.

Does forrun mean foreign?  If so, foreign from what?  It is part of the United kingdom, so no more foreign than Scotland or Anglesea or swindon.

of course you should be allowed to be a bigot marches...afraid this doesn't make sense

[AndyHB]

If reports are true, then tension has been growing for some time - but then it always does at this time of year.  Not only are there the Orange marches we've got the long summer with high unemployment creating a host of disaffected individuals (not only yuffs) and plenty of long evenings to cause trouble.  Whilst we tend to concentrate on N. Ireland, we'll also see plenty of news reports of equivalent unrest across the UK - and that's without union actions being planned.

[ecuworrier]

If reports are true, then tension has been growing for some time - but then it always does at this time of year.  Not only are there the Orange marches we've got the long summer with high unemployment creating a host of disaffected individuals (not only yuffs) and plenty of long evenings to cause trouble.  Whilst we tend to concentrate on N. Ireland, we'll also see plenty of news reports of equivalent unrest across the UK - and that's without union actions being planned.

actually according to Stepehn Nolan there has been trouble as you say every year it is unusual to have it reported!

 is disaffection leading to riots necessarily dependent on unemployment... if that's the case we should be seeing less disaffection not more in the UK..


GOD BLESS!

Peace and Love,

[EliB]

Ecu, how can you describe NI as foreign?
And of course we should care.....! I do NOT agree with Orange Walks, although I've often had that opinion questioned as I'm, technically, Protestant - although would never describe myself as such). We've  just had our main "Walk" through Glasgow this past Saturday...thankfully there was very little trouble, but there's always the
risk!!!!! I'd ban ALL marches (Orange AND Hibs!) both sides are as bad as each other and yes the UVF seem to be responsible for the trouble as reported here, but there's provocation on both sides. NEITHER side is
innocent!

[AndyHB]

actually according to Stepehn Nolan there has been trouble as you say every year it is unusual to have it reported!

I hadn't noticed a reduction of reporting of troubles at this time of year - though perhaps its a tad earlier than usual.

[Boudi]

Ecu, how can you describe NI as foreign?
 

I've asked myself, and other questions but you don't seem to get replies....

[ecuworrier]

Ecu, how can you describe NI as foreign?
And of course we should care.....! I do NOT agree with Orange Walks, although I've often had that opinion questioned as I'm, technically, Protestant - although would never describe myself as such). We've  just had our main "Walk" through Glasgow this past Saturday...thankfully there was very little trouble, but there's always the
risk!!!!! I'd ban ALL marches (Orange AND Hibs!) both sides are as bad as each other and yes the UVF seem to be responsible for the trouble as reported here, but there's provocation on both sides. NEITHER side is
innocent!

hey thanks for your perspective EliB!.... marching of a religious nature i suspect is more endemic and part of the culture in NI...  and i was a bit surprised when i visited NI to see some very orderly marching boys brigade or something ......   it is though more prevalent in some areas than others.... like outside of a easter walk of witness....   me i would love to see as an act of service to the community voluntary disbandment of the practise along with some heart felt rhetoric of a feast of cooperation and communication and communion with brothers across the divide...

NI a forrun country ? ... it's far away and across the pond.... there is no way that such troubles in a principal innglish city like london would get away with such little discussion and media response... that's what i mean... frankly syria ni its all soo far away


GOD BLESS!

[AndrewF]

Well - at the moment the news of the World situation seems to be driving all else off the agenda.... consequently ANYTHING which is not 'domestic' gets short shrift.

[Boudi]

Ecu, a personal opinion such as this certainly doesn't make it true.  The water doesn't make it foreign.  Spain is foreign to France and you don't need water for that.  Likewise I brought up places like Anglesey...is that foreign?