Phone hacking - part XXXXX

[AndyHB]

Following the announcement that Milklie Dowler's phone was hacked and messages deleted by someone working for a News International publication, I am planning to write a letter to Mr Cameron asking him to put the proposed sale of BSkyB to NI on hold.  \some of you might wnat to do the same and since some here don't like Avaaz, I am posting the text of their letter to the same effect
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Dear Mr. Cameron and Mr. Hunt,

Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation's already owns too much of our media and shouldn't be allowed to own all of BSkyB. The undertakings you announced wouldn't protect media plurality as News Corporation would aggressively cross-promote its media, damaging rival news groups and restricting what we see and read.

The process for this deal is flawed as it has ignored a major concern -- that Murdoch  trashes media standards and ignores regulators. Hacking and other scandals show how his media often violates ethics and the law. There are serious gaps in the deal you outlined, including no fixed financial penalties for breaches. News Corporation is unlikely to stick to it.

I call on you to refuse to grant Murdoch any further control of British media until the deal has been reviewed by the competition commission and a full judicial inquiry into the hacking scandal is conducted and completed.
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Feel free to use this as a starting place - as I will be.  I will also be writing a letter, not an email, so that 10 Downing Street gets a physical load of mail to dela with.

[Jan]

There is also a petition on www.38degrees.org.uk/

[administrator]

There is also a petition on www.38degrees.org.uk/

done!..can i also plead with anyone looking at this, to vote for this campagn idea

[AndyHB]

There is also a petition on www.38degrees.org.uk/

done!..can i also plead with anyone looking at this, to vote for this campagn idea

Have signed both - and also written a letter re. Murdoch to David Cameron, copied to my own MP as well.

[AndrewF]

Andy I thought you were a teacher! "Hacking and other scandals show how his media often violates ethics and the law."   'Media' is plural, so it should be 'violate' not violates...  Apart from that I entirely agree with the gist of the letter. Will send it to my MP - do you have emails for the PM and Hunt?
Jan - thanks for the link - duly signed up for!

[AndyHB]

Andy I thought you were a teacher! "Hacking and other scandals show how his media often violates ethics and the law."   'Media' is plural, so it should be 'violate' not violates...  Apart from that I entirely agree with the gist of the letter. Will send it to my MP - do you have emails for the PM and Hunt?
Jan - thanks for the link - duly signed up for!

I see your point, Andrew - though please note that I didn't write this piece, I simply cut and pasted it.
That said, I think there is validity in the 'error' as it is distinguishing Murdoch's media from other media.

Email addresses for Cameron and Hunt - try http://www.number10.gov.uk/ and http://www.culture.gov.uk respectively

[Jan]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14044052

scroll down - see who is pulling their ad's

[ecuworrier]

There is also a petition on www.38degrees.org.uk/

done!..can i also plead with anyone looking at this, to vote for this campagn idea

hi mc.... i understood that credit unions already run on those principals...  though saying that ... i seem to recall a documnentary some time ago which suggested that credit unions had found substantial favour in ireland... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credit_union  though this is a bit off topic here


GOD BLESS!

Peace and Love,

[ecuworrier]

for some reason i feel rather bemused by this all .... (whilst feeling pretty enraged but for me there is much more to dislike here)  it's a bit like the expenses scandal... ie we are a bit selective about what we are enraged about when surely there are a number of principles at large here that we seem to be complacent about... thus like with first past the post politics those a little more circumspect in their decision making come up whiter than white when really it ahs to be said the water they all wash in is quite murky!

i was forced to realise i probs have never read the NOW though i am sure i must have browsed the backpages at various points of idle so ubiquitous is the rag when someone attempted to describe a flavour of their journalism style... hmm the best bit of the News of the World seems to be that it reduces to NOW a really cool title for a newspaper....   

long ago i read a documentary book about an undercover journalist working for a similar sleezepaper in a different country this was long ago now and since then it's a waiting game


as for listing advertisers who withdraw their funding... the main question for me is why are they advertising there in the first time... or listening to someone from the forces complementing the NOw for its support of the armed forces is all a bit hypocritical and queasy...

as for what will happen next.....   personally i don't care .... they are all innit together and we the british public like a bit of .... well why else would we hand over our pennies??? but we do... if anything one should perhaps stop buying products of anyone who advertises in these papers as a point of a broader principal ... come to think of it:

little dc has personal contact with the won't go former editor.... and also hired Coulson after his resignation following royal phone tapping incident came to light and investigators were jailed  both he and miliband were at the recent News Inernational knees up

oh i not long ago had a conversation with a former editor of a tabloid and broadsheet distinction... so i asked about what the editor should or should not know .... realising that verification of source was something that was emphasised on journo courses ....   and that newspapers were liable for what they print.... was told that the editor may well not know but the journo would go through the newspaper's legal section ... sooo maybe that's where the culprit lies?...  and sleeping dogs can now go back to sleep... and the world of british media can go back to being a bought and sold sleezy place!

it will be interesting though... what will come of the BskyB thing... well no-one was too exercised before i seem to recall....

and will we be like berlusconi pretty much untouchable and even changing the laws to make sure...

ah italy .... now one thing interesting about what Berlusconi is that fairly recently some of his law changing was to stop journo hacking... and why? well i'm sure you can tell for yourself... you see in italy the law allowed journos to hack in order to investigate stories aobut public figures and the like..

another interesting facet of this is the police who are now being themselves coming under scruteny regarding their original investigation now that bit i find is rather interesting..

here's one journalist's views on the matter courtesy of yahoo news etc:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/comment/talking-politics/everything-know-phone-hacking-five-minutes-124308357.html

oh i see that NOW is nomore...  http://uk.news.yahoo.com/news-of-the-world-to-close-down.html


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/comment/talking-politics/three-steps-fix-journalism-114744952.html
GOD BLESS!

Peace and Love,

who still feels bemused....  does that mean murki murdoch gets his monopoly on bskyb stuff .... you see we the british public just don't know how to pick the right arguments

[AndyHB]

as for listing advertisers who withdraw their funding... the main question for me is why are they advertising there in the first time

because it has the largest circulation figures for any (?) UK newspaper - not just Sunday paper.

it will be interesting though... what will come of the BskyB thing... well no-one was too exercised before i seem to recall....

The hacking issue has been part of the argument against the BSkyB buy-out for several months now, ecu.