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Re: ... the er ... lent blog 2011(cont'd)
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2011, 20:28:53 »
hmmm pottering along in timelesness... well not quite ..earlier was pondering my lack of interest in ....  christian celebrations of the death and resurrection the events of Jesus death resurrection and ascension are pretty tightly embalmed in the liturgical calender... did i say embalmed? well yes it wasn't a word i would have thought of to use.....   but now i have there is something kindov well interesting about the notion the death of something of the preservation order on the dead ... something totally human superstitious totally religious it smacks of the olden the religious ages and eras of civilisations come and gone all but... what had the quality of chronos the ability to sit there and mark in the year just by being there.... am i joking.... well no but i am musing.....   AND now i come to think of it am thoroughly fed up .... cos.... well just been nosin in wikipedia to collect the evidence... not the evidence but the tools of discussion......   time factors....  you see... i have as some know been grumbling about  the whole holding up of the Kingdom by the fascination of the liturgical calender... going through the motions then going back to square one....  and i guess at least for a bit there's me feelin well a bit fedup of.... i was amused to find someone who seems to have abandoned lent all together well at least theri undertaking... and though not religious i would have expected them to hold firm ... if i look on at them are they missing out? cos if they is then surely me looking outwards brings me back to look at my self and the answer has to be well yes!.... this has to be the grumbliest half heartedst lent i have had in recent years... and a part of me just don't care! ... but then that same part of me don't care about christmas? well the religiosity i really do not care for...... and here it is right here staring us in the face the proof....  notions of time alone is not the cause but it's how we relate to stuff .... you see that thing about the once and for all timeness bothers me.... the kairos the ( Kairos (καιρός) is an ancient Greek word meaning the right or opportune moment (the supreme moment). The ancient Greeks had two words for time, chronos and kairos. While the former refers to chronological or sequential time, the latter signifies a time in between, a moment of undetermined period of time in which something special happens. What the special something is depends on who is using the word. While chronos is quantitative, kairos has a qualitative nature.[1] copied from the wikipedia entry current for kairos) ... see now that has every meaning of once and for all timeness....   and GOD is always doing stuff to change us once and for all time that's just the average stuff... that is the nature of GOD... and yet... so i don't understand basically ..logically i don't get the attention to the liturgical calender as the be and all... now please do not think that cos the evangelicals put two fingers up to the established orthodoxies with theri flourishing ceremonies that they is any less chronos than those traditions... you see man man's delights and fancies man's culture and aspirations man's comfort zone is all pretty up there in chronos stuff.....   and the church is no different.... you see atention to stuff (no disrespect to those who has families) but the mentality of getting married is just well chronos having children is just chronos orientated and there half the time is just about where the average churchperson's er Spiritual interests wane out... whereas the kairos of experience of GOD is pretty exciting and full of real unknowns ... no bungey jumpin is chronos you gonna do it again (or not) same difference.....    and there must be something about the death and Resurrection that one time event that remains ONE TIME ONCE AND FORALLTIME like something of GOD has flicked a swithc all that was has been disturbed for us to find out what really GOD is about... so the liturgical obsessive time keeping is like an annual pilgrimage peering over the grave stone doing some gardening perhaps... and yet the attention to kairos has been left to the tending of chronos... there must be something in there .. the church gets lost in and yet and yet..... i mean what's the point of promising living waters the eternal  whast's the point of talking about living waters when all we can think about is well that thought or that thought even and then we must get back to that chronos.... me i feel i am being tested being propelled along held bck by my insistence of culture of chronos and oops there we go... we don't really go anywhere but that i feel being propelled in my belief in my expectancy in my well come on let's be clear a pigeon that i don't know if it was the same one or the washing up liquid... look me i is a scientist and all i can say as i shared the washing up liquid with someone yesterday i started by saying i don' know if i should be sayin this cos afterall the measurable evidence after the event.... cos like could i has got something completely wrong .. i certainly has been examining that bottle for certainty and stuff... but the thing of belief the acceptance of what.... i feel the ground is breaking through... and so chronos the site of not believing cos though wanting to believe.... slowly becomes.....  breakthrough ground of GOD doin that 'kairos' stuff now that excites me ....  the attention to chronos though it don't do nuffink for me at the minute ... but still there is something that i cannot deny has value certainly in the chronotic(?) state it has been a place to look to in expectancy of seeing the presence of GOD and the experience as such!

and that's where the church comes into it innit somehow... well somehow

GOD BLESS!

Peace and Love,

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