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Re: At Odds With Scientific Fact
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2011, 09:40:37 »
Is it wrong to not do homework? Or is it a reaction to boredom, lack of intelligence, ability, a need to try and see what being self determining  means, or any other number of reasons?   I hardly think not doing homework is ingrained badness.
Did I say it was - other than there is an element of refusing to do as one is told if one doesn't do it?  I used lying about why one hasn't done it as the example.

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The plant was a helpful metaphorical explanation - not a direct and equal comparison.
but a metaphor with such very different contexts as to make it largely irrelevant.

I don't think it's wrong to not do as one is told.  Lying: well it's very probably wrong but one can see that a child can already be unable to be truthful if the relationship with school or a teacher is bad, as it often is.  And whose responsibility is it to address that when a child is say 8 years old?  The school's, the teacher's, the child's, the parent's, society's?  There is already shame, boredom, fear etc. involved on the part of the child.  The lying is a result of these conditions.


No I disagree about the metaphoric illustration.  Our general discourse as humans is mainly metaphorical in any case.

It seems to me that you are decided that wrongness is inherent and that you are throwing random reasons for why this should be true.  I would rather look at the basic argument to see where wrongness comes from, it might not come from anywhere solid - merely a reaction to circumstances.