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Re: The Science Of Life
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2011, 11:42:37 »
No, the links you have provided have been proved to be unsatisfactory because none of them point to a repeatable experiment under controlled conditions.  That's all I've been asking for and you've failed to provide it.   My prediction came true - mind you I cheated a bit, because I knew that such an experiment hasn't been preformed or reviewed under controlled conditions.

Actually Martin I provided you with links in the past (NDE etc)  and a suggestion for you to check out the info on the Windbridge site. I also suggested that you should go and do some proper investigating yourself (because it is not for me it is for yourself that you would be doing it). If I give you a clip to watch - what would it prove? You would immediately start to pull it to pieces because video evidence can be manipulated and faked. If you want to get involved in some scientific experiments yourself then you know how to go about it don't you? Get in touch with those doing the experiments or set up some experiments yourself with others. Other than that we have what has been documented on the Scole experiments and on the Windbridge site - there are more sites to check out as this kind of investigation is going on - experiments are being repeated.

I did manage to find the clips I was talking about - experiments with mediums. They can be viewed on this link.
http://www.victorzammit.com/evidence/mentalmediums.htm

You will have to scroll down to find the actual experiments taking place as there are some other clips just before.

Regarding fakes and stuff done for entertainment purposes - I used to watch a program called 'Most Haunted' which was supposed to be about investigating haunted places. It got to the stage where myself and hubby would just laugh at the antics going on - spoons being thrown about, odd noises and gasps - stuff done just for the camera and not really a true investigation. Their night vision camaras appeared to just be cameras with a green filter over them to make them appear like they were night vision. Knowing that this kind of thing can and does go on for TV purposes and ratings does not make me think 'oh well - it must all be a load of rubbish then' - why do I not think that? Well because for one thing it is pretty obvious what is going on and because of all the other info and experiences I have had in my life.

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In fact, my 'comfort zone' as a scientist is to marvel at new discoveries.  I am fascinated by the experiment which may have recorded particles travelling faster than the speed of light for instance. 

I am fascinated by this too. For so long scientists seemed so certain that nothing can travel faster than light. Even now some are coming up with theories of why this seems to be happening - some theories involve the particles traveling through 'another' dimension. Fancy that eh - 'another' dimension  )):  - I guess the main thing though is that they are willing to investigate it further rather than pretending it can only be a 'trick of the light'  ;)

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If there were a controlled experiment which showed conclusively that people have a consciousness after death, I would be fascinated.  Over the years on Faithspace, I think I have reliably demonstrated my credentials as someone who is happy to think outside the box, to questions the status quo etc.  So there can be no credibility in your claim that I am taken outside my comfort zone.

It would seem from the Windbridge institute site and others that experiments going on all the time Martin. You can get in touch with them to find out more if you want to. If you feel that what they are doing isn't up to your standards of 'controlled and repeatable' experiments - then why not set something up yourself?

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No, you make that claim because you want to argue back, and you have nothing of substance to argue with.

Is that what you think - that I want to 'argue' back - lol. All I am doing is sharing info, which I enjoy doing - it is up to you whether you take it on board or not, but it is also up to you to find out more for yourself as it is for each of us. It is not my job to prove to you anything - you need to get that proof for yourself, whether that is personal proof or proof obtained from those 'controlled and repeatable' experiments.

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You are indeed right that you're wasting your time sharing links which don't show controlled experimentation, when what you have been asked for is a link which does show controlled experimentation.  You're wasting my time with those links too.

well I found the links I was looking for and I added  the website where they can be found. If you don't like the experiments or you don't think they are up to your standards - you are quite at liberty to run your own.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2011, 11:47:27 by Jan »
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