Message #3344

[Martin]

lol - Martin - do you think its not on every channel because it is false?
Why do you think it (supernatural phenomenon)  still goes on and is around us (has been going on since the dawn of human existence) and is reported and documented by many people all over the world and through time?

I have had personal first hand experiences of what you might call 'strange' phenomenon - have you?

There's probably no one single cause of  things that are reported as 'supernatural phenomena', but there are a few strong indications as to the cause of some of them.  Hoaxes rank highly - these have been exposed on many occasions.  Fears and imaginations are another.  Cold reading - people who are utterly convinced they have supernatural powers, who simply, and possibly, sometimes, unconsciously, feed off the reactions of their audiences.

Both myself and my husband saw a ghost - at the same time. Have you ever seen a ghost?

Not a ghost, but I have experienced what other people have reported as, 'strange phenomena', I've seen unexplained lights in the sky - which, now that they've become more common, and now that I've seen a few launched, were almost certainly chinese lanterns, off the North Wales coast. A friend of mine had a conversation about them on air on a local radio station, there will have been many corroborated sightings etc and, at the time it all seemed very mysterious. It isn't now. 

Your sighting of a ghost leaves me non-plussed. People are suggestible, you demonstrate that your critical analyisis is very lax when it comes to these things, so that might be the reason you think you've seen a ghost - what you aren't able to demonstrate is that ghosts actually exist.

I have predicted events which have later happened. Have you?

I predicted that you would not want to let the last thread rest - I was so right. There is nothing supernatural about such things.

I have heard a voice speak to me but not from any family members in the house. Have you?

I could introduce you to plenty of people who hear voices!  There's nothing supernatural about that though.

I have investigated what happens at a Spiritualist Church - have you? (and I mean actually been to one or more churches on a number of occasions and seen various mediums at work, even been on a Church committee)

No I haven't actually been to a spiritualist church.  But I have seen videos of people cold reading and noted their techniques.  They can appear very convincing to an uncritical eye - so can magicians.

I have read countless accounts/info/experiences of others on NDE, seances, experiments, transcripts, recordings .... (and I could go on and on) - have you?

There is no good reason to believe that near death experiences are evidence of anything other than the activity of the brain.  As the brain it nears death, it obviously undergoes biochemical changes which will result in an archetype experience. The fact than many people report a tunnel with a bright light  is no surprise to those who study the brain.  People also have out of body experiences, say, when they're on LSD, which, to them seem very convincing, but are no surprise to those who study the effects of such drugs on the synapse.

So yes - I've done some investigation.  But, more importantly many, many others have investigated and the massive verdict from people whose job it is to be critical and curious is that there isn't the evidence to support the claims.

Also I have given you science links to check out - previously.

Those that you gave, that I investigated, wouldn't and, more to the point, shouldn't convince anyone.  They were simply not science, just as the one you gave in OP of this thread is simply not science.