If it can't be repeated today under controlled conditions then, it DOES mean that it is of no value or merit. 

That isn't entirely accurate though Martin is it. Within science there are theories. For example - the big bang theory being how many of the scientific community believes the universe started. It is not proven - just a theory - yet still it is probably the best we can go off for now. There are other theories of how the universe came into being. Darwens theory of evolution - is still part of science - but it is still called a theory. I believe our physical bodies evolved from those of animals because it does seem to make sense. If I was given an alternative explanation and that made more sense, then I would take that on board rather than believing it cannot be true because I had already subscribed to the first theory.

There are lots of things that are difficult to repeat exactly under controlled conditions, purely by their nature - but that doesn't mean they have no value or merit. Science in itself is progressive. It is just our way of trying to make sense of the world around us. Our understanding can and does change over time.

When held up to such scrutiny, their claims and conclusions don't stand up.

But they do Martin. Go and see for yourself.

I call what you post 'junk' because it is stuff that is thrown away when you examine it with a properly critical eye.   

I suggest it is more down to you not wanting to look properly through fear rather than examining with a critical eye.

I think it is you who is frightened.  Frightened that your lifestyle, your friendships, your community will falter if you admit the truth about the fiction on which it is based.

My 'lifestyle' ??? My 'friendships' ??? what do you know of these??? Absolutely nothing at all. Your judgements are based on false assumptions Martin - yet again. My friendships are with many people of different views and background - not all spiritualists. Some are Christian, Wiccan, some Atheists, at least one Buddhist and a Muslim ... and my lifestyle well its fairly mundane really but no less more valid than anyone elses lifestyle.

 

In some ways I understand that and I'm not really bothered whether you carry on in your fantasy.  If it helps you, go ahead.

lol - It is hardly a fantasy Martin. It is quite real.

The problem is that, if you're going to do that, you will come up against the truth, time and again.  If you seek to defend a lie, then you will lose the argument.  You will find yourself writing things that you know in your heart of hearts are untrue. 

but Martin I could not do that. I could not write about something like this which I know in my heart of hearts to be untrue. This to me represents truth. I might not have all the pieces yet - but then again the scientists looking into why neutrinos seem to travel faster than light, they don't seem to have all the pieces either do they.

You'll find yourself cornered, time and again, when the lack of rigour in the articles you use is exposed.  And then you'll find yourself hitting out with those little snide comments which add nothing to the argument, but are designed to deflect the argument elsewhere, to turn the spotlight away from the flaws and fraud associated with the claims you make.

I haven't been 'cornered' Martin - this is just a discussion. Just one little forum in ciberspace where people can share information - agree or disagree ... or alternatively try their best to smack each other in the head with a bunch of words which really represent their limited minds or ego's - lol -  It is just a forum    - If you have found valid flawes in any of the links then you should be able to discuss them rationally or even send an email to the person who wrote the info (shouldn't be too difficult to find an email to contact them)

This is my last post on this thread. 

Good! I can understand you might need a bit of a rest - spurting out all that negativity. At least you got it off your chest (for now). The funny things you fire back at me to try and ridicule me actually turn out to be quite real when I look them up - and I have to have a little chuckle at this - eg Giant teapot in space ... moontrees etc. Come on Martin - you have to laugh it is quite funny really.
 
For me though it was beginning to get very tiresome (again) going round in circles (again) and I have really got to get ready to meet some zombies and a corpse bride tonight.

No hard feelings though eh