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Re: Goodness atheists and religious people
« Reply #75 on: October 28, 2011, 11:03:42 »
I provided clarity that I was expressing my opinion as soon as you questioned it.  You clearly are not 'looking for clarity' all these posts later.

Oh my goodness Martin :doh  - you must be having a laugh with me  :rofl: :rofl:

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There is no evidence that has satisfied proper experimental scrutiny, of the existence of such a thing as a soul.  Just as there is none for the existence of minotaurs or zombies. 

Is there any point in me actually answering you on that?

The Electronic Voice Phenomenon (Spirit Voices on Tape), Instrumental Transcommunication (two-way communication with those who crossed over), the SCOLE Experiments, Out of Body Experiences, Near Death Experiences, Empirical Materialisation,  Trans and Mental Mediumship; Poltergeists, Xenoglossy and Reincarnation,  the Cross-Correspondences, Proxy Sittings. In relation to the issue of materialization, this lawyer also discusses Prof Albert Einstein's E=mc2.
Spiritualist Churches all over the world gathering and receiving messages from loved ones in Spirit via gifted mediums.

Respected scientists who investigatedhere

and Afterlife Hall of fame

If there were no such thing as a soul or spirit or that which survives physical death - then the above would not be possible would it?

If you want to discuss the existence of the soul etc further - there is a facebook group called 'Spiritual? Sceptic? Evidence for Existence of the Afterlife'    ... but then again if you are a closed minded skeptic it will be of little interest. It would probably rile you a bit instead. 

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And you've shown your willingness to believe in zombies, when it suited your argument to do so, based upon a web page that clearly questions the truth of their existence.

Oh dear ... lol .. my willingness to believe in zombies ????
so I have added a link which you claim 'clearly questions the truth of the existence in zombies' - now why would I do that? I am trying to show you that there is a lot more out there that we do not understand. Just because we haven't seen something it doesn't mean that it isn't there or that it cannot exist. Don't you get that yet Martin??

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You may be interested to know that Dr Ian Stevenson, although he was repeatedly asked whether he believed in reincarnation, was circumspect about his answer - not the actions of one whose scientific research leaves one with no other possible alternate theory or belief.

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Dr Ian Stevenson, died on Feb 8th 2007.   He left behind a locked combination lock for which he had set the combination himself 40 years previously basing the combination on a secret mnemonic device, a particular word or a sentence, perhaps, known only to him.

His intention was, that, after his death, he would try to communicate the mnemonic or combination to those left behind on earth.

According to the New York Times newspaper on February 18th 2007 the combination remained unknown.  I can find no reference to the combination being communicated since that time.

give it time. sometimes it does take time. There is plenty of evidence out there for people who are willing to listen.

I was reading a timely article this morning from here which kind of gives a good explanation.

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COMMENTARY: ON ADMISSIBLE EVIDENCE

A most fascinating insight is that two opposite extremes - the religious fundamentalists and the closed minded skeptics, behave exactly the same way; they do NOT read material they do NOT believe in, the material they do NOT accept. Christian Fundamentalists for example, will not read the works of Darwin, the evolutionist who claimed the human species evolved from lower animal species.

My TWENTY-TWO years experience of investigating the afterlife and dealing with closed minded skeptics show that these skeptics DO NOT READ any area of the afterlife evidence they do not accept in theory. For example, the most fundamentalist closed minded skeptics will not read, will not investigate the most persuasive objective and repeatable admissible evidence for the afterlife.

As I stated in the recent past, Psychology and Neurolinguistic clearly explain why that happens. The principle is that they do no read any material which is going to give them huge anxiety.

'TIME': But you will have to be patient with your partner or a loved one who so far may not accept the afterlife. If you keep saying that the afterlife evidence is now scientifically proven - over time, the resistance will get lower and lower - eventually to acceptance.

An article which you may wish to read (or not) then again whether you take it on board or not is entirely up to you  :)

http://www.victorzammit.com/articles/houdinicode.htm

There is a lot 'out there' (and within too).

Seek and ye shall find ... or hide your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist!

« Last Edit: October 28, 2011, 11:27:53 by Jan »
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