Message #322

[ecuworrier]

Nevertheless 60 and more years ago the real nature of paedophilia wasn't appreciated in the way it is today. All religious buse. A bishop or church leader's first reaction, rightly or wrongly, of whatever religion, was to protect the church from the terrible scandal of such accusations.

who seem to have been endemic in the Catholic church,

what i am glad to see is that saundthorp after many previous opportunities to discuss these issues on the previous board that you are now aking that opportunity i welcome that!...

what i don't quite get is that you seem to be taking this rather personally...and defending someything ... it is possible to praise the good whilst recriminating the bad... the problem i have with the whole sad sorry saga and your description of it is .... this ... it was money bags that forced the hand of the catholic church in local litigious surrounding ie USA where it was possible through the legal system to address the abomination of the actions of those individuals that acted...

kids who were abused in some third world countries are not so lucky ...  so where is the look out for them?

during the course of the twentieth century.... what did emerge is recourse on a legal frameworks.... sadly dthe church has been ddddddddddddreally slow to drag its footprints on these issues....

because the bible is abit apparently less than visible on the rights and wrongs of child sexual abuse at least as a listed misdemeanour???!!!!
 does not change though the absolute horror of a situation that causes life  destroyuing consequences... now that is nothing new either...... me i don't defend what is not rightchild sex abuse is not new to humanity it is not something that came up... during the C20
the severe life destroying and development arresting impact is no less or more a serious factor inthe C20 if anything the lack of address over a period of 2000 years of church history is a REAL SCANDAL... is GOD indifferent? i don't believe so.... but the absolutely pathetic response to well did they really hide things? .........they certainly failed to... they did not take that fangs out of the abusers and that is the serious unchristian response that begs many questions..... what has the chuirch been doing as a human organisation for all this time? 

BIG QUESTIONS likethe question.... what is Forgiveness and what is the role of trhe confessional there for...and giving a priest a new start as a priest is putting an inordinate faith in something... was it GOD   what were they thinking of.... me i despair ... i do not see the presence of Jesus in their mustered efforts but i do see a humanness that demonstrates a loyalty to something....  people give theri hard earned pennies to these people  for thier upkeep in good faith....  sorry but a lot of things has gone wrong and the ddlack of effort over 2000 years to address basic human Sanctity is yes it is a real SCANDAL trust the church ? to be perfect? a tall order
..trust the church to do the right thing.... ?  whoo boy we live in hope sometimes we see what we like .. but is iit with GOD?

 i trust GOD and too many people feel let down cos thy assumed it was the same thing chiurch and family and GOD and the pope and stuff... me i  well GOD IS GOOD lets talk about GOD ...  me i don't defend what is not right... in the church the chrch should at least be the vehicle that carries GOD and in that carrying we should be thankful and at times really moved... but please don't muddle GOD in with a bunch of clerics GOD is GOOD folks is folks


GOD BLESS!

Peace and Love,