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Re: poverty how do we define it ... what to do ?
« on: June 23, 2011, 19:22:57 »

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on a recent radio programme.... a man was discussing a 40 year study of Whitehall employees and their health prospects ....   and stress.... he got the shock of his life and spent two years trying to disprove his findings before giving in...   he made what was an ultimately shocking and very interesting observation that for me has really interesting and quite shocking implications ....   

he initially thought that the higher up a person is in the management heirarchy the more pressure and stress they are under and therefore the more at risk their health is... i think he may have mentioned that they are given more pay to compensate for the pressure .....   the people he found who were more likely to have theri careers and lives curtailed by heartattakcs and the like were the middle layers of management.....   having spent some time pondering these unexpected results he was muttering about the amount of control people have of theri lives... he further made the general observation...  that the higher up a person was in the heirarchicla ladder the more control they had (doesn't mean they make the best plans /ideas ... there was talk of self esteem)  that the lower ranked the person was all things being equal the less their life chances .....   i think it was veering towards a debate abut social pressures and esteem that those lower ranked weren't used to being in control ...and that this might influence other decisions one made in one's life... which is kindov along the vague lines of a maslow model


i was interested in ythis cos in the modern world of increased longevity... we've been working hard at stuff we have been busy building some pretty complex heirarchies that in simple community arrangements might be far simpler.....   yes some heriarchy and not necessarily that benevolent .... but alternatives quite complex adding layers at the top .... increasing longevity for those able to 'rise to the top one way or another'  whilst the bottom layers are at risk of illness and heartdisease and death similar to the world over.... governed by the vialbility of life that perhaps is pretty similar the world over... ie the bits missing will result in death.... 


kindof that with all the evidence of longevity increases in western life the relative success of

i did like his comments within a context of valuation and who should be paid more for what based on the pressure put on them.... 

you know what i am very interested in this ....