Message #1733

[ecuworrier]

mellow beauty today..... well seems the prayer squad is out in GOD Measure... how are you feeling today asks mog brigjhtly .... why are you asking me that? i asks knowing the answer by that mog asked... mog mog's self is not looking so bright but then.... there is nothing like a bit of prayer to sort out the loose change....

yesterday was interesting...

i had another prayer warrior rooting for me... and they had for them.... i shared about forgiveness .... you see? i had to explain it again you have no idea how much cheer that gave me... we ended up in a really interesting discussion ... which at first i thought oh no i shouldn't have said that! it was all about ostracism... forgiveness then all the way to oh that favorite bludgeoned instrument the one of freewill.... that the chuirch so liberally uses to despise ...

oh here's a bit more on Forgiveness ... i explained that i wasn't quite there with the detail or finality... in John somewhere... Jesus talks about the Holy Spirit that in the Holy Spirit if you forgive someone they are forgiven if you don't they are not... something like that... i was a bit intrigued by this like heey are we talking freewill options here?... you see there are some stories that upset my count of Jesus Forgives so what happened there then!? like Judas' demise ... 'I have lost none that you have given me but the one who is doomed to die... something like that!.... and the death of one of the couple in Acts who sold their possessions but kept the money back for themselves and one of them drops dead right there....  ok so Peter i think is there.... are we talking GOD's Activity or Spiritual Options? so   is this Spiritual Abuse thing more powerful and not to be underestimated... or is it just me not being quite in the zone on understanding... that GOD well GOD is GOD folks say... i think my heart feels really uncomfortable with the arbitrariness of stuff like who can be all gleaming loved up by GOD and who can feel utterly permanently condemned... like is this of necessity a GOD thing... which brings neatly to well... free will of course...  the person i was speaking with i have heard use such doctrinal statements as we are all sinful or we are all evil even... like that is our essential nature... well we all hear stuff like that! even though the logic of the Bible appears to start with goodness!... so where does freewill go wrong then?

 or does GOD go wrong i mean if we are intended to be helpful how is it we end up being logged as monsters ... or well GOD is in control ok so one way and another we is helpful to GOD but how is it that we ends up being such a mess and creating havoc and GOd just lets us get on with that ... it all seems a bit arbitrary and GOD can come across as a bit of a bully and a prankster even in our mode of understanding!.... well the freewill argument in church is used to say we are all in complete control and responsibility of our actions ... and therefore it is up to us to repent.... i disagree with this i see folks as at times being to continue that terminology: out of control! and that being out of control limits our ability to fully apprehend ourselves!  i was quite grateful that we appeared to come out of that one still friends and i think i gave my friend something to think aobut... while i know i have a whole lot more thinkin to do on the other front.... gottago now

 i have only recently noticed this which on investiagation seems completely daft... given all the ingredients have been there for a while at night at least.... if you sit in a particularly location and stare out into space there is a white crucifix in view... like i say i have (mysteriously) only recently noticed it  and only yesterday investigated ... it scientifically .... yes it is a reflection but the object that is reflected does not of itself give a crucifix shape at least not in that undeniable form ... but it is the distortion given by a reflective surface that distorts an image into shape.........at a particular point of view...   was talking about this with someone who was moaning about seeing crucifixes everywhere whereas me i love to see them it's like Jesus is nudging me to concentrate on Him when it is me what is wandering off into darkness  and i have been warming to this image.. it's almost like hey never mind the fag i go outsidce just to stare at the crucifix...  that vantage point for point of view  all important like you need to know where to stand to get the best view of JESUS


it's been a really interesting day all around

i even did that all rare thing and read some evangelical magazine confirming why that is a rarity... i read two pieces.... one about men and the church that there aren't enough men in the church cos there are too many women ..... the article was logical enough to point out that though men were in teh 3-1 majority in positions of frontline leadership women attende 60% of the time well it was a far fetch to me to see that the problem was the women... though the kinds of women who like a strong man at the front can indeed be a problem in my eyes... so that was curious a pretty pathetic effort at analysis i thought!... on the other hand i read the former head of london theological college's view of Rob Bell's apparently controversial tome 'Love wins' ..... apparently well io haven't read the book and it's entirely poss that i would fail to get the gist of anything and probs disagree with everything  but i had a little irritation on this mystery status the literary Giving the Bible gets refered to by the critic..... seems his main problems with Bell is his referencing of the Bible... look me i am not going to stick up for some author especially i haven't read! but goodness..... only refering to half a bible!?  what about the referencing of GOD ? i thought is he fully referncing GOD somehow

GOD BLESS!

Peace and Love,