lent .. a journey of solitude treasured solitude... where one breaks away from the social norms of the time... to give up a little luxury to kneel with the poor to recognise Jesus more to be close we do this for ....

hey me there...

i'm on a hidden solitude...  i am kindof obsessed with the Heidi Baker thing ... i say this only cos as i have been stating all the more frequently of late.... the only christian on this earth i can take seriously ... well that has to be a bit of an exageration... but actually there's encouragement and prophesy in that life showed all over the place... you see one knows one is in a backwater when folks has eyes lit up thristy desirous of guest speakers that's gonna make it all right... the if only's of the christian faith.... this last year i have been ..... well not overly concerned with conferences... you see i have been to a few with the great anticipation and the great excitement and the great return and the great fizzle out .... in this backwater is it different that one comes home excited and then guess what everyone is full of indifference .... is it that one reacts the same way when someone else comes back all filled up?....  you see the last few speakers i was commissioned by GOD to be in the same room as they all say the same thing you gotta get it on with Jesus there's no two ways about it .... it may not be their hysterical exhortation though that in itself wouldn't be a bad message... i have jested that if i were ever in that ghastly place of speaker above all things with the voice louder than the rest electronically magnified that there is only one message.... hey guys what are you doing here? go and get it on with Jesus! you can't walk someone else's faith .... it resonates with Jesus and the disciples Jesus asks the disciples who do they say i am ... well that's pretty much as far as church and the theologians get ..... and you know what Jesus says: and who do you say i am... the answer given rests not only on personal knowledge but also Revelation... and that's kindof like neither nor bookstuff....   or second hand info cos realistically we would have to say ... well soandso says thisthatandtheother and i believe soandso.... (why?  )  and you know i wish they would! ..... but with Jesus there is no second hand answers.... there is no authenticity without the first hand experience and Revelation... well that's what i think and that is more or less why nobody interests me as speaker... that is not to say that GOD can't refresh my soul with a preaching moment or two....   but the bottom line has to be surely i't what GOD does in the present isn't it ?..... 

ok well this year i had the extraordinary addition to my experience of  not wanting to go then not wanting to read  then not wanting to go then GOD getting the better of me and then i read and went with some suspicion.... and GOD got the better of me... you can't go to a place and then what.... this was GOD's answer to my reluctance to travel to listen to anyone.... it was a journey in listening to GOD ... did i have to go to a special place to do that?.. it threw me completely it was about we do nothing GOD has it all does it all.... those were the words.... we provide the circumstance a preacher elsewhere described.... hang on this is my argument

i hope you are spotting the flaws in my argument... all my 'heros'... have had Blessing sought Blessing where the Holy Spirit is sought the council of GOD are led both by the Spirit and GOD place has a setting as does the social journey christian among christian... and / or!

GOD BLESS!

Peace and Love,

continued.....

http://www.christianitymagazine.co.uk/sexuality/stevechalkeextended.aspx ...

you see like i said i have met Steve Chalke allbeit briefly and to respond to some stuff ... a very charming man and public speaker who succeeded in having the company present in unholy titters about an unholy and misogenist joke which annoyed me intensely .... my short conversation with him did not make freinds i was talking to a trad evangelical .... and when he appeared on the radio some time ago but some time afterwards ... same ol' trad evangelical ... the whole penal substitution debate kindov left me cold ... but i tell you i wouldn't have expected a man of some conviction to have become quite so transformed in not only his thinking but following up with deeds what he wants to take on bullying of gays in schools!? nobody does that (except gays) GOD was in the house alright...  i was moved by his comments about the expectation of exposure to some flack from his fellow evangelicals and that that's what gays experience .... it was time for me to stand up again alongside him and so when one of my trad evangelical friends asked me about my week well i was and am pretty Amazed so i told them about my amazement at ... it's a miracle! said i... what you want us to legalize buggery! said they... i was a little taken aback by the terminology and politely suggested they should read the article for themselves.... a few days later the bill to legalize gay marriage was debated in parliament apparently with similar kinds of language used by one or two folks approaching their free vote...

last night i heard a cross the pond catholic nun asked about the future and the pope make some pretty interesting comments she passionately thought that the male enclave should spend some time listening to women...... and desired that same male enclave that have the role of selection of the next pope should choose one who has been a parish priest and been exposed to the real rough and tumble of life and especially one that comes from a family where they have grown up with some stroong feminist women and even some gays! ... i was amazed to hear this ... but enjoyed the refreshed perspective from which she spoke .. a woman with bounce full of life and joy and a sense of realness about real people and real lives

meanwhile back at the ranch.... GOD has got me to hang out at this church somewhat reluctantly though gradually with more enthusiasm as i have had some pretty amazing conversations ... it's one of those churches that could be described as successful by it's 'advance of the Kingdom' it's a juggernaut of an institution .... well back to dragging my feet a few weeks ago i arrive having missed everything... i hit a really interesting conversation with someone who introduces herself as somebody's wife (how very of the teaching traditions of that church thought i -see i don't like the teaching traditions there) i pick her up on that and discover that she is a career woman in her own right! i also discover that she is from far away and she waxes into her personal experience of christianity and church in that far away that is Amazing and miracles and the like abound ... not like here she gestures contempt.... and has me grinning.... the church where we are has planned some time of fasting and praying for the church and guess what! a relatively tiny portion of that is corporate prayer time ... this lady is used to all night prayer events.. Praise the Lord!....   still GOD makes sure i attend some of the corporate stuff......  i wander outside for a fag and wondering what to do next i hear GOD say stop here... and so i do .... i sit and i wait ... folks go past i pray for a few in my mind and then one suddenly spins around and engages me telling me to go to cell group!.. what? it's not actually the first time that this has happened over recent weeks a number of conversations have been of that ilk.. and everytime i explain some form of apologetics why this is just ain't gonna happen.... here we are again.... but there is something about this conversation... this time it is somebody who works for the church who i don't recognise at all he is accompanied by a friend who says not a lot but listens.... i am explaining my long and sporadic association with this church and what i don't like about it and why me being in cell group is just unlikely as an event because! ... i come out ... and we chat about this... i am more than a bit moved by the conversation but i am recognising something Spiritual for sure....  i feel very invited to cell group ... so ok GOD what do You want... i am mindful of the persistence of requests or exhortations to do church...

i go to a couple of fast and praying events ... i enjoy the first... and the second well now sojething rather weird happens i am delayed to get there i go home to eat first and then trundle there walk into a fullflow prayer meeting that is topic based and guess what!.... i want to turn round and walk right out... but something holds me there yup it's all about the gay issues seems thy have been talkin about it and it is on the agenda again...

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GOD BLESS!

Peace and Love,

squashed time.. eternity blinks a mo

Psalm 19
Amplified Bible (AMP)

Psalm 19
To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David.
1 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows and proclaims His handiwork.
2 Day after day pours forth speech, and night after night shows forth knowledge.

3 There is no speech nor spoken word [from the stars]; their voice is not heard.

4 Yet their voice [in evidence] goes out through all the earth, their sayings to the end of the world. Of the heavens has God made a tent for the sun,
5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber; and it rejoices as a strong man to run his course.

6 Its going forth is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the ends of it; and nothing [yes, no one] is hidden from the heat of it.

7 The law of the Lord is perfect, restoring the [whole] person; the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.

8 The precepts of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart; the commandment of the Lord is pure and bright, enlightening the eyes.

9 The [reverent] fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever; the ordinances of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.

10 More to be desired are they than gold, even than much fine gold; they are sweeter also than honey and drippings from the honeycomb.

11 Moreover, by them is Your servant warned (reminded, illuminated, and instructed); and in keeping them there is great reward.

12 Who can discern his lapses and errors? Clear me from hidden [and unconscious] faults.

13 Keep back Your servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me! Then shall I be blameless, and I shall be innocent and clear of great transgression.

14 Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in Your sight, O Lord, my [firm, impenetrable] Rock and my Redeemer.


i'm particularly taken with this psalm at the moment... i like the deafness confounding .... the incipience of Creation manifesting into space and time there is a sense of out of conscious, unconscious, self conscious, connectedness.... out of dust we are made.. out of dust we are created and that dust of the making of the maker the form the maker formed the purity of essence of GOD speaking out and beyond.... is anyone listening can anyone hear does anyone want to hear like the sound is there deep within the sound of silence a silence that is? cannot be? really silence... a silence that is both sound and silence... meaning and not meaning..... i love that the speech of GOD the Word is not what we make of it but what it makes of us... it has effects effects beyond conditions effects that release us give us release into a state of ... well that GOD state that knowing that you are touched by GOD because of how it feels it bypasses completely the works of man and inevitably is not dependent on man.... man afterall is there as helper and not necessarily the most helpful of helpers but born with consciousness that can recognise GOD in GOD's Love and can ask for it without any sense of and a consciousness that can recognise GOD as well as to know beyond words or even feelings what is like what is not like GOD... words are not clarification though they can unlock undo the locks of imposed thought manufactured engineered proposed bought into survival thought the matter of humans among eachother ....  far away from .... clear me of unwanted ... to whom do we address those questions... what is free?

very recently and in the last few weeks i have amazed.... i have been out of sorts for a while familiar as well as... well out of sorts... then one day i only had a few minutes for a quick coffee .. in the cafe i saw a christian i know not very well but we chat briefly ... they were busy talking to someone else... there was a newspaper at their elbow and i didn't want to disturb them so i sat down.... one moment they caught my eye... i knew they were busy but hey i wanted that paper and asked them for it you know what... well open and browse through and the word 'evangelical' and gay blessing or something ... a short passage heads upped.... evangelical yes i know Steve Chalke well i have met him years ago and more recently heard him on radio (years) and now a few days ago.... i tell you the Spirit fell in that place and i looked up and couldn't share my excitement with the person i knew there.... instead i went and told some miscellaneous folks who well ... i was stunned of course for them they haven't a clue...

Chalke's piece appears in Christianity that evangelical rag.... and there is

for me reading his extended article on line and seeing what he is doing on Oasis i am totally gobsmacked it's not that h.. it's great to hear him speak no w he sounds so free the whole thing just breathes life


the word kills the Spirit breathes life!

GOD BLESS!

Peace and Love,

definitely coughing up blood.....

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